Batch Capture Acts Like a Yo-Yo

I'm using a JVC BR-DV600U deck to capture footage into Premiere Pro. The problem is that I've logged a bunch of clips and when I tell it to batch capture as Premiere is telling the deck to seek for the time code it rewinds past the starting point, then fast forwards past it, then rewinds back, then forward, then back, etc. until it finally gives up and aborts all of the captures.
So far, I've had to do every single clip individually which completely negates the reason for batch capture and is a huge waste of my time.
Any ideas?

I have the same exact problem with batch capturing using my Sony M15 deck, and, like you, I resort to batch capturing using my Sony V1U camera with no problems. Why does Premiere not like to play nice with the decks?!

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Unable to locate timecode in batch capture

Hi there, I have been working on this problem for a while and would really appreciate some help.
I have a documentary project I have been working on for some time and have completed the EDL. I am now trying to batch capture the footage again in full res and am having problems with a couple of the tapes.
First the specs:
The video was shot on a Sony HDR-HC1 in HDV(1080) mode.
I am using this camera to capture the footage.
I am trying to recapture the footage in a sequence with the easy setting on HDV1080i50.
I had originally captured the footage in SD on an older version of final cut pro (I am now working with FCP6) and didn't realise that my 16:9 footage was actually all 4:3 letterboxed. To fix this problem I used the media manager to export and then in the new project batch capture all the footage again from the tape. The project uses 18 tapes, 16 of which were batch digitised with only minor troubleshooting required. However 2 of the tapes are proving to be very problematic. It seems that whatever clip I select on the tape it gives me a message saying "unable to locate timecode".
I have tried setting the tape to the exact location of the clip before selecting the batch capture, but the computer always seems to look for a spot which is 2-3 mins out of sync with the clip. For example, if the in point is 00:10:00:00 the computer will roll the tape to around the 00:12:00:00 mark and start jogging around there for about 30 seconds until eventually giving me the "unable to locate timecode" message. Looking in the information in the bins, the in and out points are accurate, its just that when I try to capture, the computer rolls the tape to the wrong position.
If anyone knows a workaround for this that will help me avoid having to edit the footage all over again I will be extremely grateful.
Thanks
Liam

HI I have the same problem, the capture window says: Waiting for time code, the device must set in vcr mode and then This operation could not be complete as there is no video, the F!#!%$$ problem is very illogical ,at this mooring I do batch capture without a problem but since the second tape this problem starting, I update to FCP 6.0.4 and,. @@#%#@%#$ the first tape capture but the second not capture and the problem starting againd, note that IMOVIE capture the tape and work very well, iI replace fire wire, camera VCR and , I trayu with Canon, Sony, JVC and the problem persist , I have quicktime 7.4.5, FCO 6.0.4, note that I have two Macs with the same problem in both macs IMOVIE work like a PRO edition Software but FCP is very bad, I have with this problem a long time, I formated Mac, reinstall FCS2 many timers and the problem persist. IS not a problem whit easy setup or wherever , I download the FireWire SDK from Apple and test all connection with the applications of sdk and in all case , the camera and the fire wire are OK, the problem is with quicktime and FCP, If any one is working OK with FCP and DV NTSC devices and JVC PRO HD devices, please tell us HOW DO. I'm working with FCP since 2000 and in this month FCP makes me very UNHAPPY.

Audio Not Syncing After Offline Conversion/Batch Capture from OfflineRT-DV

WORKFLOW:
1. Shooting HDV on a Sony HDR-V1U (DF/NDF Timecode setting is AUTO on the camera)
2. Using the camera to downconvert to DV as I import into FCP 7 (final product will be NTSC DVD).
3. I first capture and log using the OfflineRT NTSC (Photo JPEG) preset
4. I make my Edits, and then use Media Manager to create new project and create offline media referenced by duplicated items. (Set sequences to: DV NTSC 48 kHz)
5. The clips I need are then batch captured using Capture Preset: DV NTSC 48 kHz
PROBLEMS:
A. As I'm initiating my batch capture in step #5 above, the following warning is generated:
WARNING: You are about to capture Drop Frame media from a device currently detecting or configured for Non-Drop Frame media. If you proceed, you may experience changes in logged in and out points, problems relinking media, or removal of master clip relationships.
B. When I playback my sequence, the in/out points are off by several seconds. (like the media within the clip slid ahead several seconds--to fix it, I would have to slide each clip back)
QUESTIONS:
Q1: How can I properly execute my workflow while avoiding the WARNING above and the problem with the in/out points?
NOTE: The OfflineRT clips in the original project (#3 above) are shown as DF (semicolon in timecode), but the duplicated clips in the DV project (#4 above) are NDF (colon in timecode). I have already tried changing my capture preset to Firewire NTSC NDF, recapturing the clips, and the result is the same.
Q2: Should the capture preset be the same or different when logging the first (OfflineRT) and second (DV NTSC 48kHz) times?

Wish I had a simple answer for you, stay tuned, some folks who actually use those cameras will drop by sooner or later.
TrevorRawson wrote:
After importing through log and capture I continue to get a pop up when it's done saying that the audio and video frame rates do not line up.
I'll bet you're shooting with a Canon.
TrevorRawson wrote:
I am using a Canon xl2 and a Panasonic DVX100A,
Ah-HA!
TrevorRawson wrote:I'm shooting in 24p Advanced with a 2:3:3:2 pull down. The capture settings are set up for FCP's default DV NTSC 24p with Advanced Pulldown, same with my sequence settings. This is my first time shooting in 24pa so I'm a little lost at what to do. Does anyone know the correct settings I should be using?
so neither camera captures properly? that's odd. We know the Canon is going to give you trouble but the Pani should work.
Try searching the forum for your camera models, see what comes up. Many different cameras shoot their own versions of various image,frame, and pulldown formats.
bogiesan

Timecode error in batch capture

I've searched this problem but still haven't found an answer. When I batch capture, I get a "Timecode error" and on about half the clips I logged I have to cancel out of the capture. some work,some don't. It's not a problem with the pre-roll at the beginning of the tape; I left plenty of room when I set the in/out, and the first clip is now captured anyway so it can't be the start of the tape. But every time I try to capture the rest of the clips, I get this error with some if not most of them. I've changed the setting to NDF and it doesn't seem to make a difference. I'm only capturing in the middle of the tape now, so the beginning and end have lots of space. Please someone tell me how to stop this! I just upgraded to Pro and it's my first attempt at batch capture, so I'm pretty disappointed that it's such a waste of time.
Thanks, smart people!

Great, now you made Studio go and have some fun on the weekend.
X is right eliminate things one at a time.
You didn't let us know what drive you are capturing to.
If capturing from the camera doesn't work, it may be that you are experiencing the "multiple FW devices on one FW bus issue" in which case you might try looping the camera or deck through the drive, works for some, but more likely you will need to install another FW bus via the card slot on the laptop.
By the way, this really doesn't sound like a drop/non drop issue, but look at the timecode display of the footage on tape. If the last 2 numbers are preceded by a semicolon,,, it's drop frame.
Now, I believe someone mentioned the US Open!
rh

Need Help Reconnecting P2 Media- Batch Capture not working

Hey guys,
I used log and transfer and got all my P2 media into FCP 6. I did my edit and then when I opened FCP next time it said that a file had moved. Well, I went and watched Shane's P2 workflow video on creativecow and saw that he just right clicked on the media that needed to be reconnected and went down to batch capture and it all worked like a charm. Well, I could not get it to work. Then to worsen the matter, I deleted another file like Shane does in the demo and tried to reconnect that one using Batch Capture and once again- nothing. Now I have various clips that all need to be reconnected. When I right click and try and use Batch Capture it is giving me a dialog box that discusses a lack of deck, and I am not sure why I am getting a "deck" warning with P2 associated files. Please help- anyone!!!

Just so people don't think I am ignoring someone where my name is mentioned, I answered this on another forum.
Shane

Batch capture issues

I am trying to break a tape into six clips from an interview. The total media time is about 2:30. I've logged the clips, highlighted the clips in the browser, clicked on the batch capture button before a dialogue box pops up and says the capture will use 19 minutes, 55 seconds of media time. I tried it several times. I'm wondering what's going on. I've had trouble capturing video ever since I upgraded to final cut studio a few months back. I use the same type tape, sony dv. and if this helps, the total amount of recorded material on the tape is more than 30 minutes.
I also tried to capture by clip after highlighting a clip in the browser but I kept getting error messages saying unspecified in and outs. Does anyone have any idea what may be the problem?
Am I losing my mind and overlooking something really obvious?

Check your Scratch Disk volume to see if it's formatted Mac OS Extended. Sounds like it isn't.

Please help, trying to Batch Capture in CS4

I am very new at this and I have been looking at the help guide for hours to no avail. I am trying to batch capture from a Mini DV camcorder, I logged all of the clips and batch captured them, but once it is finished all of the files say Media Offline in both preview screens and the status when I scroll over is Capture Failed, even though it says it is finished. I don't know what else to do. Am I doing something wrong?

Ok, sorry for being so unhelpful I just don't know where to start...
How/where did you log your footage?
What do you mean log? Just shooting it?
What are your capture settings (post a screenshot, if you like)?
Posted screenshot
Are you able to connect to the camera from the Capture panel?
Yes
Can you control it?
Yes.
Do you see a preview as you shuttle?
I can see it sometimes, then sometimes it will not show. It always looks like it does in the shot with the lines through it. If it disappears I have to turn the camera off and back on to see it
Did you use the same camera to shoot this footage?
Yes
Will the tape playback in the camera itself?
Yes
Are you positive the footage on the tape isn't HDV?
I am using regular DV tapes on a regular DV camera, so I’m pretty sure it isn’t...

Can't batch capture, no pre-roll

I am trying to re-capture some footage. The problem is, I needed the beginning of the tape, so I originally captured from the start of the tape. Now, I can't batch capture because there is "not enough pre-roll" (not a direct quote, but that is the error it is giving me).
How can I fix this? Is there a way to change how long the pre-roll will take? Or is there a way to edit the in point on the clip?
Thanks, like always!
Matthew

Well.... NEXT TIME you'll know to always have adequate pre-roll on your footage.
THIS TIME, first, change the inpoint on the batch capture that contains the offending portion to a place where you can reliable capture the clip you need. Then do a capture now of the head of the tape up until the new in point of that clip. Be sure to give yourself adequate overlap so you don't lose any frames.
Does that make sense?

Batch Capture (Re-Capture) with Free Run TC

I'm batch capturing footage from 5 years ago for a client that wants another copy of their video. 1 tape was shot REC RUN timecode and it batch captured without issue. However, the 2nd tape is FREE RUN timecode and the capture utility bounces all over the place trying to find the in point. 50 clips, 0 successful captures.
Have adjusted handles, etc....no dice. I actually had re-captured this tape in CS4 a few years back and it worked fine, might have lost one clip total. Now in CS5, nada.
Let me know if anyone has an idea what I can do to make PPro park the playback right on the in point without trying to preroll, because nothing I've tried so far has worked.
For all I know it's a specific issue with CS5...dunno....I turned my back on MiniDV tape a while back and have not tried it since.
Using CS5, PC, Panasonic camcorder is the capture device.
Thanks!

Ann Bens wrote:
Why not capture the whole tape with scene detection.
Then chuck out the clips you do not want.
Ultimately this is what I intend to do if I can't find a resolution for this issue by the time I start working on the project again tomorrow. It should work, re-linking clips doesn't involve preroll or handles so I don't expect any problems going that route. I do expect to capture about twice as much footage as I actually need, as you indicated, so that will be a small hassle but that seems to be the workaround for the moment.
Thanks for the responses....if anyone else has something they'd like to add (or if anyone is aware of this kind of thing being a recognized bug) feel free to weigh in here. I might file a bug report...it seems to be that the preroll settings are not being recognized, or something along those lines.
Oh, I should also have noted that this is a fresh (er...4 week old) install of CS5 on a fresh (ahem...also 4 week old) install of Win7 x64. So there's not an application conflict...this is just an Adobe computer for all intents and purposes.

When Batch Capturing, Final Cut doesnt notice Media Out points

I have logged about 20 clips with all of the in and out points set and correct. I have put them in a logging bin and choose batch capture and it begins the process just like usual. However now it wont stop when it comes to the out point of each clip the camera will just keep running until i cancel the batch capture. What could be wrong? any help would be great. thanks

You need more than one hard drive. Capturing to your system disk is not a good idea and will bite you.
The in/out ignoring issue could be a problematic QT install or a problem with the firewire protocol.
1. Make sure you are using the correct Firewire (Basic or std) for your camera/VTR first.
2. Make sure there is no interference between external hard drives on the firewire bus and your camera
3. Use the Apple QT7 reinstaller
Cheers,
x

Logged Timecode Changes after Batch Capture

I'm working with the Kona 3 and the Panasonic D5 (HD3700B)
I'm having a problem with FCP changing my logged clip TC after Batch Capture in 720p 59.94. This problem only occurs in 720p mode, 1080i is just fine.
While capturing 720p 59.94 from the D5
In FCP when I log a clip at:
01:20:00:00 in
01:20:30:00 out
After Batch Capture is complete the clip shows up in the browser as:
01:19:55:05 in
01:20:25:05 out
FCP is effectively changing the logged timecode of the clip. I'm capturing with burned in TC and the Burned in TC is Frame accurate, but why is FCP changing the clip's TC?
In all my experience with FCP I have never encountered this issue and I am completely puzzled. I've contacted AJA and they have said that they do not know of this issue and were puzzled also. I am using a Tri-Level Sync and everything seems to be getting proper reference.
There is no reason why FCP should be changing my logged clip settings. (right?) Also, I tried a test where I made the clip that came in with the bad timecode offline, and then ran a Batch Capture again, and it changes the logged timecode even further. I've tried a variety of Device Control settings playing with frame offset etc with all having the exact same numeric result (see TC above).
Anyone who has any insight or similar experience your thoughts are greatly appreciated. Thanks for the help
Ted - Editor, NYC

The BITC matches the original Logged TC (even though the logged TC changes after capture)
Logged TC (Media Start/End in FCP)
01:20:00:00, 01:20:30:00
Captured TC (Media Start/End in FCP)
01:19:25:05, 01:20:25:05
Burned in TC Captured (Viewable on Video File)
01:20:00:00, 01:20:00:00
I'm very curious about what yourlooking at on the deck manual. Page 145??? I don't see a page 145. It's been my understanding that the Monitor HD-SDI does produce the 720p 59.94 signal, and that's what all my monitors and Kona say that their getting.
Also, could you clarify your last sentence.
*"Forgive my guessing but this deck looks like it really wants to work in 1080 and 720 is kind of there to step up from 8 bit DVCPro HD."*
I dont think that its a 23.98 issue and our source tape is not 23.98, even still if it was, it shouldn't effect the logged TC.... but I'll try it in the morning, could'nt hurt.
Update: A person over the phone at Apple "didn't" (did) say over the phone that upgrading to 5.1 (universal) would improve 720p capabilities.
So the next step will be giving more money to Apple for Universal and installing the new Kona drivers released yesterday.....and then let the testing fun begin again.
Thanks so much for your help, please let me know where to find that info in the D5 (3700B) manual. Cheers.

Batch Capture - Frame rate changes after first clip

Hey everybody,
Working in CS4 on a Mac, and trying to simply batch capture about 35 clips after all have been logged accurately.
I'm using the DVX100A, and shot in 24Pa. So I have set up my sequence settings to DV 23.98 Fps, and 16:9 Progressive.
Upon batch capturing (making sure the capture settings are the same) the first clip is captured at 23.98 and works fine, then every one after that 'captures' at 29.97. I say 'captures' because it says it is captured but when I try and play it in the source monitor Premiere crashes or freezes.
Has anyone else experienced this issue? Thanks for any input regarding this issue.

Then I changed Recording Setup to 480i/30p...My thoughts were that this would be slowed down a little.
That is an incorrect thought. DV tape runs at 29.97fps always. Even 24p...that runs at 29.97 but has the film like cadence. If you want to shoot slow motion, you need to shoot 720p. That is a 60 frame format. You can shoot 720p24 to get 23.98, then there is a trick to get the camera to shoot 60fps and record it as 24fps. The Barry Green book that comes with the camera explains that. And that is SMOOTH slow motion.
Now the camera ships with a 16GB P2 card. One comes in the box, along with the Barry Green book. Did you not get that? Where did you buy the camera?
Shane

Max Number of Clips for Batch Capture?

Is there a maximum number of clips for batch capture?
I've had two failures today - FCP quit when tackling 208 short audio clips (around 4 - 10 seconds each). No video involved at all.
Is this too many for my expensive super-whizz quad thingy?
Over 360 GB free on my Hard Drive. Could it be my power save settings?
Currently tackling 30 at a time to be safe (we'll see).
Andy
4 x 2.5 GHz G5 Power PC. 8 GB DDR2 SDRAM Mac OS X (10.4.5) FCP 5.0.4 (FC Studio)

Thanks David,
I'm inclined to agree - it would have been easier all round if I'd captured the whole tape and then made subclips. I tend to shy away from this because when I used FCE, I had problems with longer captures going out of synch.
FCP seems to be coping OK with 30 at a time but doesn't appear to like 50. I know what you mean about all the shuffling - but surely it's only like asking the Mac to do a large calculation?
I've discounted the power saving theory as it happened after I changed the prefs to 'never'.
If anyone can shed more light on this topic, I'd be really grateful.
Andy
4 x 2.5 GHz G5 Power PC. 8 GB DDR2 SDRAM Mac OS X (10.4.5) FCP 5.0.4 (FC Studio)

Batch Capture Problem with 5D mark II

At the end of an event we normally copy all cards to the HDD, each card in a separate folder. We then point FCP at the card folders and use log & transfer to ingest the footage and transcode to ProRes 422.
Once all the footage is ingested we save the project and copy it from the Mac Pro to the iMac so that a second editor can work on it at the same time. Because the iMac doesn't have a RAID we set all the footage to 'offline' and use batch capture to recapture it all in ProRes Proxy.
So far so good.... that is with all the Panasonic HMC footage.... BUT we recently started shooting on the Canon 5D2 and 7D as well and this simply isn't working.
For some reason FCP recaptures all the Panasonic footage but refused to re-capture the Canon footage. I can see all the files in the L&T window but it never seems to equate the footage with the files I am trying to recapture.
HELP! What could be causing this? It's only a problem with the Canon footage.
Both MacPro and iMac are running identical versions of FCP and identical (latest) versions of the Canon L&T plug in ..... and YES we copied the entire CF card to a folder - just like we do with the Panasonic HMC stuff.

Hi Andy, compressor is current chugging away, so we'll get going for the edit I am sure. Only 600 more clips to go
I've tried everything I can think of in terms of recapturing. Even on the original Mac Pro that the footage came in to, if I copy the entire project folder (including the 'cards' folder) from one RAID to another it fails to recapture in the original project using the original codec (ProRes 422), but if I point it back to the original cards folder it works fine. It seems to be 'moving/copying' the cards that is causing the problems.
I've checked the dates and sizes on the copied files and they are all the same, and since recapturing to the original project at the original settings doesn't work once moved I am completely stumped....!

Batch capturing tapes Wowsa what a Hose! Please Help...

Hi all, i have a bunch of tapes I did not shoot. Yesterday I was on a mbp with latest FCP and a Sony DV Cam. Long story short, the MBP burned up and the Sony had to leave for a shoot. So today I have the same tape with a new Imac and a Canon XL1s cam. The iMac was restored using Time Machine, so it's the same software. The Canon cam will record and allow me to capture just fine...but with the tape I was using yesterday, I get all kinds of broken timecode errors. I can't even recreate the a clip from yesterday, even though in the Log and Capture window I can see that the timecodes match up between what was logged on the Sony and what I want to capture today on the Canon...arg!!!! any idea on what to do?
I tried going device control=none (or whatever) and I get "Capture encountered a problem reading the data on the source tape. This could be due to a problem with the tape. Capture has been aborted and your clip has been saved.
The video looks okay but the audio is all choppy, so perhaps there is some strange thing between a sony and canon on audio? I can't get ahold of the shooter as he is out in a village somewhere shooting, but he told me he shot the tape in PAL SD 16bit audio, and what was captured on the Sony the other confirms that. I think. Very confused and stressed out now...first a blown PC, now this. Thanks!
It seems when I try and log a clip, say 30 seconds, and go to batch capture it, FCP is stopping a lot and saying [locating timecode break (press 'esc' to stop]. FCP pauses here for some amount of painful time, then continues with the capture. And is captureing random bits it seems. If I turn off device control, I get Capture encountered a problem reading the data on the source tape.
I was using a Sony the other day and the same tape was capturing fine. Now I have another machine and another camera, a Canon XL1s, so I am not sure what's up. Can anyone help me diagnose this problem?
If I record a bit of film on the Canon and capture that all is fine. I don't have access to the Sony anymore, so what to do?
The timecodes look consistent

You should try this on the Final Cut Pro forum.
Are you sure it's a PAL camera?
"The iMac was restored using Time Machine, so it's the same software."
You can't install pro apps like this. It will always causes problems. You must install the software properly on a correctly installed OS. Restoring will not provide a correct OS installation for pro apps.

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