Batch capture problems HDV

Hi we are trying to batch capture HDV 1080i 25fps footage filmed from both a Sony Z1 and Z7 camera in Final Cut Pro 7. The problem comes when we try and batch capture or clip capture logged footage in final cut pro, the tape seems to be stuck in a continuous preroll loop on the first clip that needs capturing, the only way to capture any footage is through capture now. Finally the capture deck we are using is a Sony HVR-M15AE deck.
Any help would be greatly appreciated

Sounds like there may not be enough preroll space on the source tape ie not enough preceding unbroken timecode to allow for the preroll time needed ... if so then you may need to try a shorter preroll for that clip. Check (and possibly edit) the preroll setting in your Audio / Video Settings >> Device Control Preset. (You may just want to create a temporary duplicate preset for this shorter preroll setting).
Hope it helps
Andy

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my small camcorder though.
Very good to know about the XL2 - can we have yours?
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1. *Problem is that the markers...*
I not sure what you mean by markers. Down converting the Canon f mode HDV to DV should produce basic DV and perhaps the time code could be shifting. Canon has a unique way of creating a Cine look.
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Others have had the problem of not being able to do effective Batch Captures due to the computer's inablity to locate the timecode (it seems especially true of Canon cameras and HDV--so, the XLH1). The solution is to just capture the whole tape and then delete the unwanted clips. I'm wondering if there is a smoother way of fixing this problem.
I can get FCP to batch capture as long as I'm willing to sit by the computer and tell it to "Continue" 3-5 times each time it has to fast forward. The computer fliddles around the timecode point until it finally decides that the timecode indeed exists.
Thus, it's not that the computer doesn't know what the timecode is at that moment. Rather, it seems to get hung up on just when to strat rolling so it can begin capturing at the right time. This, as far as I can tell, would be a Preroll problem.
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Hi everyone,
Just thought i'd take a minute to post back and update the forum with the outcome. After many more tries and batch capturing with HDV and DV and in great frustration, I came upon a wonderful post (sorry can't remember who/where) in which the OP said they were having the very same issues as me. The solution was staring me in the face the whole time: Quicktime.
All I did in the end to overcome my problem was to plug in the camera, check QT preferences were set to source: HDV camera and Native resolution, then just hit play on the camera and start up a new movie recording!
This captures the tape in one complete clip. Though obviously it does not pull across timecode, and due to the nature of manually hitting play on the camera and record in QT, would make it difficult to reconnect media in the future, however it HAS successfully captured footage in its original resolution, ready to be imported into final cut and subclipped.
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Cs3: batch capture in/out edits incorrect

OK - heres my problem. I have a hdv project which i captured dv files. Ive edited these in the timeline and now want to offline and batch capture as hdv. When i do this however many of the clips appear incorrectly on the timeline. they are slightly off the edits i made - starting several frames before where i made the cut.
To test it wasn't an error having dv clips in a hdv project i set up a dv project and captured some dv footage. Did some edits on the timeline ( not the program window ) then exported this section, imported it and placed above the edited section on the timeline( so i could use as a comparison ). I then right clicked the captured footage in the project panel - make offline, media files deleted. Then right clicked the captured footage in the project panel - batch capture and captured the footage again. When i compared the footage in the timeline against the saved export the edits were out of sync.
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Hi Stan, thanks for the response. I'm sure your description is clear but ive been at this for 20 hours straight so pardon if i am confused. The hdv export has a matching picture/timecode with the Sony FX1E . ie the Premiere Source window of the file shows the same image at the same timecode as the camcorder viewfinder. Premiere is importing the right section. Well what it thinks is the right section. However this is not the section that was on the original timeline - i can see this by referring to the exported avi i now have on a layer which i use as a reference. I need to check to see if the dv file has the same in/out as the hdv. will need to test on other footage as previously i deleted the files on batch capture.
Am i following your suggestion correctly?
Another strange thing happened. I gave edl a go - exported from the project with dv. created a new hdv project and imported the list. Batch captured and still had the same problem - some match some dont. However i transferred to another pc and the same files which were matched on my laptiop were now not matched! How can this be? All i did was transfer the external hard drive ( scratch disc ) to a different pc , hooked the ppro file to them and more unmatching.

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Hello,
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Does anybody knw this problem?
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See also:
FAQ:Why does HDV capture include more frames than I specified?
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Eddie
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Serious Problem Batch Capturing HDV

I just searched through about 10 pages of this Forum and I could not find anyone with the exact Same problem. I am Using a G4 Mac with 1 GB of RAM with Final Cut 5.0 and I am trying to Capture Footage From a Friends Sony HDV HDR-FX!. I have logged about 18 clips for about 41 minutes of footage. Everytime I go to Batch Capture I tell it to Capture all of the clips and it instantly says Cannot Locate Timecode... Thank You in Advance if you can help, and the sooner the better.

FWIW, Here's the way I worked successfully last summer on a project that was shot on some sony HDV camera. We rented a Sony HDV deck. I went to the end of the tape and marked an out, I went to the beginning of the tape, let the tape roll for about 5 seconds or so and marked an out. I had "abort capture on dropped frames" and "create new clip on time code break" enabled in preferences. Captured the entire tape as HDV. FCP created a number of clips. I then batch captured these clips as DV so I had both HDV and DV clips. Both parts of this process worked flawlessly.
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