Batch capture takes twice as long to capture

Weird problem. Say I have 3 clips on a single tape (this happens across all tapes and projects) I log them and then select them to batch capture.
All, seemingly, goes well, they cue up and the log and capture screen says "item 1 of 3" or "2 of 3" etc.. but then when it looks like it is done, rather than end, it goes all the way back to the beginning and seemingly re-captures all footage! When I check my capture scratch folder, i only have one file for each capture sequence.
Thus, my capturing takes 2x as long to capture!
any ideas?
thanks
FC Studio 2 (i.e. FCP 6.x)

So it's PAL footage? or NTSC? anamorphic?
Odd though, never seen this behavior, so not sure how to troubleshoot it other than to rebuild your startup disk... (the old sledge hammer approach). It shouldn't be happening though and likely won't with all the setup being clean (as in rebuilding your startup disk). It's all up to the latest too right? 104.11 or or 10.5.2, and QT 7.4.1? FCP 6.0.2, right?
Jerry

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HI I have the same problem, the capture window says: Waiting for time code, the device must set in vcr mode and then This operation could not be complete as there is no video, the F!#!%$$ problem is very illogical ,at this mooring I do batch capture without a problem but since the second tape this problem starting, I update to FCP 6.0.4 and,. @@#%#@%#$ the first tape capture but the second not capture and the problem starting againd, note that IMOVIE capture the tape and work very well, iI replace fire wire, camera VCR and , I trayu with Canon, Sony, JVC and the problem persist , I have quicktime 7.4.5, FCO 6.0.4, note that I have two Macs with the same problem in both macs IMOVIE work like a PRO edition Software but FCP is very bad, I have with this problem a long time, I formated Mac, reinstall FCS2 many timers and the problem persist. IS not a problem whit easy setup or wherever , I download the FireWire SDK from Apple and test all connection with the applications of sdk and in all case , the camera and the fire wire are OK, the problem is with quicktime and FCP, If any one is working OK with FCP and DV NTSC devices and JVC PRO HD devices, please tell us HOW DO. I'm working with FCP since 2000 and in this month FCP makes me very UNHAPPY.

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thanks for watching...
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Is it a new media drive?
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Since saving time is essential in this case, I would have logged each tape as one clip, captured that tape and move on to the next. Drop two full clips in one Sequence for DVD 1, play out the Timeline to a stand-alone DVD recorder in real time, and move on to the next one.
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God bless,
|-(|:^D
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In standard trim, FCP needs at least 5 seconds preroll before capturing. The preroll is so the tape can get up to speed, the heads read timecode accurately and so on. You have discovered what happens when you give it no oppertunity to sort itself out.
The simple answer for your current situation is to set your first in point 10 seconds after the start of the time code. Be sure to make sure your last clip's OUT point is 10 seconds or more before the end of time code or you can have problems at that end of the capture as well.
The long term answer is next time let the camera run for a minute or two before you start recording anything you will want to keep. The same is true for the end of the tape - let it run for another half minute or so.
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x

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