Batch capturing with little pre-roll?

Hi, I just got some tapes that are supposed to be recaptured to online an old project. The problem is when the tapes were captured they weren't given any pre-roll.
Does anyone know a good way to get the batch capture to work? I've tried changing the pre-roll/post-roll from 3 seconds to 1 second but no luck. I've also tried changing the media start on the offline clip but it won't let me. Any ideas?
Thanks.
Caleb

If you've moved the preroll to one second then I think your options might be spent. If you capture now then that should work only you'll probably have to recut them by hand unless you could trick FCP into a reconnet on the new files.

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