Batch Derivation configuration

Hi ALL
My client is asking me to configure batch derivation in the system.Can any body explain about the Batch derivation process and how to configure batch derivation like steps to achieve the batch derivation.
Thanks in advance
Best Regards
Katta

Please check these answered links:
batch derivation
batch Derivation
Batch derivation in production orders
Batch derivation without production
Edited by: Afshad Irani on Apr 30, 2010 11:27 AM

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Folks,
I'm trying to simulate the batch derivation functionality but couldn't get it work. I have used both manual and release production order derivation events.
Necessary configuration is setup including batch where used list and related derivation configuration.
I have setup the condition records as follows (it is based on pull derivation; 1 receiver and n sender)
For sender condition, I have condition record based on receiving + sending material combination, in which I defined two sending materials (both HALB) along with the receiving material (FERT). VFDAT (SLED) is my field attribute.
For recipient condition, I have condition record based on material number, which is the same FERT material. VFDAT (SLED) is my field attribute and standard rules have been maintained.
Both HALB materials have batches with VFDAT (SLED) dates.
For manual derivation, I created a batch for the FERT without any VFDAT data in it and I'm trying to run DVMAN transaction for this FERT batch to invoke derivation, but it errors with two messages "No sender found for attribute VFDAT" & "The system did not find any sending batches".
I tried using a production order release as well, but it's the same problem.
Any thoughts as to why it is not working??
Thanks!!

Figured it out. I forgot to assign batches before invoking batch derivation.

Batch Derivation - No sender found during both Manual deriv & Order release

Folks,
I'm trying to simulate the batch derivation functionality but couldn't get it work. I have used both manual and release production order derivation events.
Necessary configuration is setup including batch where used list and related derivation configuration.
I have setup the condition records as follows (it is based on pull derivation; 1 receiver and n sender)
For sender condition, I have condition record based on receiving + sending material combination, in which I defined two sending materials (both HALB) along with the receiving material (FERT). VFDAT (SLED) is my field attribute.
For recipient condition, I have condition record based on material number, which is the same FERT material. VFDAT (SLED) is my field attribute and standard rules have been maintained.
Both HALB materials have batches with VFDAT (SLED) dates.
For manual derivation, I created a batch for the FERT without any VFDAT data in it and I'm trying to run DVMAN transaction for this FERT batch to invoke derivation, but it errors with two messages "No sender found for attribute VFDAT" & "The system did not find any sending batches".
I tried using a production order release as well, but it's the same problem.
Any thoughts as to why it is not working??
Thanks!!

Figured it out. I forgot to assign batches before invoking batch derivation.

Mfg. Date in Batch Derivation

Hi Friends,I have configured Batch derivation. I have maintained condition records for sender and reciever material types. When I am issuing material having different batches for sender materials, Sytem is taking first lineitems mfg date in that line item's batch. But we want the mfg date from batch having highest qty. Can any body suggest, what I have to do?
Regards
Edited by: k prasanna on Jul 17, 2010 7:17 AM

Hi
In Tcode DVR3 against the characteristic, select Rules Tab and maintain Maximum value under Rules for Value selection
for more than one sender.
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Dear Experts,
Pls guide me to identify and resolve the following problem:
I have configured the batch derivation and maintained the necessary condition records.
The derivation event is defined as the GR for Production order.
The problem is, for certain orders the derivation is not working and giving the error as (in T Code DVMO):
- Warning Rule "No empty sender fields" broken for attribute XXXX.
inspite of the fact that field (XXXX) in the RM batch being already filled, still data is not getting transferred to the produced batch.
However, the derivation is working for other production orders (around 60%).
Where I could have missed the point.
Kindly help me out.
Thanks & Regards,
Rohit Chauhan.
Added: Can there be any thing at material master level which can cause this problem, because the material is either deriving the data or failing. Both cases are not existing for any single material.
Edited by: Rohit Chauhan on Sep 9, 2009 10:05 AM

Did you build your batch where used list up? Is it being update in real-time or or a regular basis via a batch job?
Look at the dates and times of the orders that fail. You may find they are older ones, or newer ones depending on when you built the batch where used list and how or when it is being updated.
The other possibility is that the orders that are failing are not being properly processed. Look at the batch where used list and see if you can trace the order information back to the batch that the results should be coming from. If you can't see the batch in the history of the order on the batch where used list then the system can't derive the results.
There is also setting in teh derivation record as to how many generations to go back I believe. You may need to go further back in some cases then what you might have it set at.
Craig

Batch derivation - Functionality.

I have issue with the batch derivation functionality.
I would like to copy specific characteristics from sending batch (component) to receiving batch (header material)
Can anybody provide me the guideline configuration steps, and master data requirement for batch derivation functionality.
Cheers!
Suneel
Edited by: SUNEEL SHAIK on Dec 20, 2010 10:18 PM

Configuration requirements
1.         Batch derivation functionality need to be active
2.         Derivation required option: Automatic for production order release, and manual derivation in case of change
Master data requirements:
1.         Recipient / sender condition records
2.         Characteristics maintenance of sender and receiving material
3.         Class assignment to finished product
Activate Batch Derivation
1.         Define batch derivation, Activation of batch derivation (Transaction: DVSP)
2.         Define derivation events
3.         Create batch derivation for Release process / production order Manual derivation (Optional)
4.         Maintain number range for derivation number (Transaction: DVC1)
Number ranges has to be configured manually in each client
Master data setup
1.         Maintain the classification of receiving material and sending material
2.         Ensure that the copying characteristic/s exists in both the classes of sending material and receiving class
3.         Maintain the master data for the following
a.         Recipient / sender condition records (DVR1/DVS1)
b.         characteristics maintenance of sender and receiving material
c.         class assignment to finished product
Transaction:
1.         Production order release (CO01)
2.         DVMAN u2013 Manual derivation

Reg error in batch derivation

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All the required configurations done for batch derivation , while doing DVR1 for receiving material with characteristics VFDAT and HSDAT,in selection of material number while saving an error is coming as "Errors found in the selection rule for attribute VFDAT" what could be the reason.
Thanks in advance
regards
venkat

Hi Venkat,
Could you please send us the error message so that we can analyse your issue better.
Sasibhushan

Batch derivation for multiple batches

hello,
anybody pls help me i am doing batch deivation. i have made all configuration. but i am not getting how it will work for multiple batches. i my scenario when i am doing sheet clitting against sales order if my rm have two batches and my fg have four batches in one production order. how can i assign which rm batch characteristics goes to fg batch.pls pull out me for this situation.
bhakta

Hi Bhakta,
Bigger problem in your case is not multiple Batches of RM but more then one Batch No. of Header Material in single production Order.I guess in your case Batch No. are triggered at the time of GR and not in Production Order at the time of Release.Correct?
But up to my knowledge Batch Derivation is triggered at the time of Batch Creation in Production order.For which you have to first carried out Batch Derivation of sender Material.But in your cases the scenario is totally different due to Batch is created at the time of GR.So Difficult one and can be possible if you go with 1 Batch for 1 prod. order.
Regards,
Dhaval

Batch Derivation Application

Hi PP Gurus,
Can anyone please tell me what is exact usage of Batch Derivation?
In which Business Process it is used generally?
What Impact it has on the Batch Determination in process/producrtion order?
Thanks, in Advance.

Hi,
You need to set folowing steps in configuration
1) Activate Batch Derivation
2) Define the Derivation events--In this step, you assign search procedures to the derivation time points.
The system does not start derivation at this time point until a procedure has been assigned for searching for attributes for the receiving batch and the sending batches
3)Define Condition Tables to Determine Receiving Batches
In this step, you define condition tables to search for attributes for receiving batches.
4)Define Condition Tables to Determine Sending Batches
In this step, you define condition tables to search for attributes for sending batches.
5)Define Access Sequences to Determine Receiving Batches
In this step, you define access sequences to search for attributes for receiving batches.
6)Define Access Sequences to Determine Sending Batches
In this step, you define access sequences to search for attributes for sending batches.
7)Define Strategy Types to Determine Receiving Batches
In this step, you define strategy types to search for attributes for receiving batches.
8)Define Strategy Types to Determine Sending Batches
In this step, you define strategy types to search for attributes for sending batches.
9)Define Search Procedures to Determine Receiving Batches
In this step, you define search procedures to search for attributes for receiving batches.
10) Define Search Procedures to Determine Sending Batches
In this step, you define search procedures to search for attributes for sending batches.
A search procedure includes all strategy types that can be used at a particular derivation time point.
Following steps TO mantained at Transaction/ master data level
1) Recipient condition records --DVR1
2)Sender Condition Records --DVS1
Thanks,
Rajanikanth

Batch derivation problems

Hello,
I have problems with the set up of a derivation process, I have checked the common link http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/25/28428b4f7811d18a150000e816ae6e/frameset.htm - but I still got problems to make it or to undestand how to set it up. What we want to do is: we have a characteristic A in the batch class1 of raw material X evaluated in an inspection process. This value has to be transferred to the batch of the product Y - batch class2 (includes also characteristic A). the derivation should happen when the inspection lot of product Y gets the usage decision. Characteristic A is not used for this inspection lot, only the value should be transferred from batch1 of used raw material X to batch2 of product Y.
What are the settings I need to get this running? Please a little more details since I struggle to understand that SAP help document! Batch derivation is active (DVSP). In DVC8 we have a record for event 100 (usage decision) for the product Y.
the record is maintained as follows: recipient: product Y, sender material X , the characteristic is characteristic A.
When I do the usage decision for the product inspection lot, only the batch characteristics used in this inspection lot get evaluated. The used batch of the raw material is defined in the material list of the production order and was also used as consumed batch in the order confirmation process.
What else do I need to get the process running? What is wrong with my idea? Where should I check what? Any ideas?
Thanks a lot
Kurt

Hi,
Just a thought:
Try running the derivation for same batch classes first. I have configured BD recently but have not tried for different classes.
The check list is given below, hope it helps to track the error:
1. OMBB - BaWU sync. posting ticked (this is mandatory).
2. Condition tables for receiver and sender batches
3. Access sequence for sender and receiver.
4. Strategy types and search procedures for sender and receiver.
5. Condition Record in DVR1 and DVS1.
Check & Revert.
Regards,
Rohit.
Added: It works for different classes. I have checked it. Please check other thingst.
Edited by: Rohit Chauhan on Jul 20, 2009 2:16 PM

Batch Management Configuration

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While configuring the Batch Management through Transaction u2013 OMCT.
First at Batch Level, selected the radio button as Material Level and Saved but Request is not created.
Second at Batch Status Management, selected radio button as Batch Status Management active and saved but the Request is not created.
We would like to know is Batch Management activation is Client specific?
Batch Level field is disabled and we are not able to see the settings.
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Hi all,
i have set up batch derivation for the event 'goods receipt for production order'. The field derived is HSDAT (date of manufacture) /minimum. Although in the batch derivation monitor I can see tha the derivation was performed OK and the correct date (oldest of the components) is selected the field in the Batch is not updated. Can anyone help??

Hi Vagia,
Your problem sounds like derivation type issue.
Please check your derivation type to be static for the 400 event.
Let us know if this helped.
Regards.
St.Pan.

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Hi,
During Batch Derivation in process order, multiple old batches of sender material proposing even though actually only single Batch of sender material determined, and transferring the characteristic values from old batches to the Receiver material which is in-correct. (I am working with SAP ECC 6.0)
Can any one advise if required to execute/run any program to correct the system in-consistency,
regards,
Purna

Dear Pruna,
please check if the correct level of WUL is defined in derivation rules
Mostly the problem is caused by default value 99 here. You can check and
change the value in transaction DVR2.
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Regards,
Shivkumar Dachawar

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SAP provides this as a hidden fuctinality for this version.
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Thanks in advance
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Please note that in 4.6C this functionality is not activated. But we can do it by defining custom progam.
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