Batch derivation for recursive bom

hello,
anybody please help me. when iam doing batch derivation for recursive BOM its not working. my recipent batch no is alo coming in sender batch no. its doing deling between sender batch no and recipent batch no. how can i solve this issue.
thanks and regards
bhakta.

Hi Bhakta,
Bigger problem in your case is not multiple Batches of RM but more then one Batch No. of Header Material in single production Order.I guess in your case Batch No. are triggered at the time of GR and not in Production Order at the time of Release.Correct?
But up to my knowledge Batch Derivation is triggered at the time of Batch Creation in Production order.For which you have to first carried out Batch Derivation of sender Material.But in your cases the scenario is totally different due to Batch is created at the time of GR.So Difficult one and can be possible if you go with 1 Batch for 1 prod. order.
Regards,
Dhaval

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hello,
anybody pls help me i am doing batch deivation. i have made all configuration. but i am not getting how it will work for multiple batches. i my scenario when i am doing sheet clitting against sales order if my rm have two batches and my fg have four batches in one production order. how can i assign which rm batch characteristics goes to fg batch.pls pull out me for this situation.
bhakta

Hi Bhakta,
Bigger problem in your case is not multiple Batches of RM but more then one Batch No. of Header Material in single production Order.I guess in your case Batch No. are triggered at the time of GR and not in Production Order at the time of Release.Correct?
But up to my knowledge Batch Derivation is triggered at the time of Batch Creation in Production order.For which you have to first carried out Batch Derivation of sender Material.But in your cases the scenario is totally different due to Batch is created at the time of GR.So Difficult one and can be possible if you go with 1 Batch for 1 prod. order.
Regards,
Dhaval

Materials planning for Recursive BOM during MRP run

SAP Guru's,
We developed an recursive BOM as per production requirments , but we didn't know the impact of this recursive BOM during MRP run.
Pls help us how to recursive bom behaves during MRP.
Thanks & Regards
Suresh Babu.S
Bangalore

Hi,
This message was sent to us by SAP when we were having the same kind of requirement. Hope it will help you too.
Usage Probability
Material requirements planning (MRP) plans the alternative items according to usage probability.
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An alternative item is only planned if the usage probability is at least 1%.
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0 is generated for the material.
The component with the quantity 0 is displayed in the planned order.
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It is possible to plan too much for alternative items, because you can enter usage probabilities that add up to more than 100%.
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Hi Friends,
Thanks in advance.
Let us say, a material (ROH) has so many batches as A,B,C & D. Whenever we create a new process order, system has to pick only the particular batch( say -C here) in the process order BOM through batch determination. (during process order creation stage)
1.How to achieve the same ?
2. What are the ways are there to achieve the same ?
3.Is there any Exit for this?
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Mani

Hi Velmurugan & Vishwas,
Thnaks for your feed back.
1. Is there any other ways without batch classification ? ( Because there are so many material without MM-classification view.....and client wants without extending the Classification view for MM master as it suggests same batch for all GI for delivery & GR for purchase.....)...We want only for process order batch determination.....
2. Is there any exit for this ?
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System ask for recursive BOM

To SAP GURU,
I have 1 problem in master ecipre .I have halb( SFG-1 ) which is having 2 halbs ( SFG-2 & SFG-3 ). Again this 2 halb is having their multilevel bom .respectvely .SFG-2 is having co product ( Co po -1 ) which is again input in SFG-1 .
Now when i am saving recipe of SFG-1 system ask me that SFG-2 mat code is recursive & for also co product system ask me about recursive .Now unless & untill i will click on recursive allowed system dont allow me to save the recipe .Even if i saved recipe by clicking on recursive allowed in mrp run system not explode the BOM of SFG-2 .
Only when header material is used in bom compnent then only bom will be recursive but in my case even if i have not used header material in any of my bom component still system ask me abaut recursive ..So can u tell me is i am missing some where or some solution is their Now i am trying to solvr it by SAP notwes 161742.( Or any latest SAP note is available )
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SANIL

Sanil,
what ever you mentioned is true , the only problem you are facing error is related to BOM level.
SFG-2 and its co product ( Co po -1 ) you are putting in same BOM level ( ie in the BOM of SFG-1 )thats why you are getting this error.
as Co Po-1 will be produced after the production of SFG-2 so it can be at lower level where SFG-2 is maintained.
Think on it , its logiocaly correct , your co product can be produced before your main product.
Check out and revert back.
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I ask for your help on the following point:
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I manage to do it with the manual batch derivation.
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Batch derivation - Functionality.

I have issue with the batch derivation functionality.
I would like to copy specific characteristics from sending batch (component) to receiving batch (header material)
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Cheers!
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Edited by: SUNEEL SHAIK on Dec 20, 2010 10:18 PM

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LSMW Batch Input Recording for Create BOM

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EXPORTING
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Rework scenerio for recursive material

Dear all,
I have recursive BOM material having thickness "X"mm and wanted to reduse it "Y" mm of same material may i use rework scenerio. please guide.
thanks

I am still not clear on the stock part. Yes in classification you can maintain thickness as one characteristic.
I take the example of a bar which has say thickness 100 mm, now you have 4 such bars. If I reduce the thickness of one bar from 100mm to say 75mm, another to 80mm, what will you maintain in the classification for thickness characteristic? Also what will the stock report show? Are you working with batch management for this?
If the need is to just capture the costs of this activity, yes you can do this by creating an indirect order via CO07.

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