Batch determination for Sub Contracting Purchase orders

Hi
I want to allocate automatic batch number while creating the Sub Contracting Purchase order (item cat: L).
System should dynamically allot the batch, no manual process.
This automatic batch number allocation should be work for sub contracting PO's not all Purchase orders.
Please suggest the process.
Thanks

Hi SUNIL,
I haven't done such thing so I'm nut sure whether it works what I'm writing, but according to the manual is it possible to assign automatic batch creation to movement types.
As I understood in SPRO you can:
1. Set the internal batch assignment:
Logistic General > Batch Management > Butch Number Assignment > Activate IBNA
2. Define the creation for the movement type you want:
Logistic General > Batch Management > Creation of New Batches > Define Batch Creation for Goods Movements
But I think you can't make difference between 'normal' MVT 101 and 'L' MVT 101. Isn't it possible to create a new MVT for subcon-GR?
In this case maybe you could realize your idea.
But defining a new MVT just because of thi might be troublesome...
Maybe you can find better solution.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/25/283c3f4f7811d18a150000e816ae6e/frameset.htm
BR
Csaba

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