Batch Determination in SD - Fixed Storage Type

Hi,
We have enable automatic batch determination at the delivery stage (VL01N). for example:
Plant: 1000
Storage Location: 3000
Warehouse number: 300
Storage type in warehouse number 300: 910,911,912, NF1, NF2, NF3
In SD batch determination process in some cases batch are select from storage type 910 or 912 or NF1 (depend on unrestricted use), how to configure in SD batch determination configuration for always select batch´s from fixed storage type (in this case NF1 or NF2 or NF3).
Regards,
Enrique Figueroa
Edited by: Benito Enrique Figueroa Flores on Sep 30, 2008 11:46 PM

Nice idea, but what is your plan if no other batch is there, and all stock is in the interim storage type?
From my point of view it does not really matter where the process flow stucks, if you wait for batch assignment in delivery until the batch is in its real bin or if you do the assignment right away and the creation of WM-TO stucks until the quant is moved from the interim storage type to its final bin.
You just have to understand that batch determination and source bin determination serves usually different needs.
I usually search for a by certain quality figures to meet my customers requirement. Or by age, to always issue the oldes stuff first.
A interim storage type is a warehouse internal thing, as I already said, nothing phyiscal. And in WM you use the storage bin search to determine the bin from where you can pick the desired material and batch.
My batch determination is setup to execute automatically when delivery is created. My deliveries are either created manually at the shipping office or automatically with a batch job.
Instead of using LT03 we have to use LB10 to create a WM-TO. Of course this will fail if the quant is locked because of an open TO or if the storage type where it physically resides is not includes in the search.

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Hi dudes,
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