Batch Determination Restriction in VL02N

Dear Expert,
How can i restrict the batch determination option in VL02N. Is there any object which can be used to block the said activity for certain users or disable the option of batch determination.
Regards.
Edited by: Govinder Singh on Oct 20, 2009 3:00 PM

Hello,
Check with objects C_TCLA_BKA and C_TCLS_MNT
You can trace using ST01 and find respective objects.
Regards,
Gowrinadh

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