Batch management in production order for WM managed components

Hi Experts,
Iam having WM managed components in my production order which are batch managed as well. I have to do batch determination for these WM managed components.
I would like to know the steps involved in it and the required configuration.
Can anybody throw some light on this please
Thanks & Regards
Enrico

Enrico,
For setting up Batch determination in production order please follow
[Batch determination in production order|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_470/helpdata/en/25/283c3f4f7811d18a150000e816ae6e/frameset.htm]
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_470/helpdata/en/25/283c3f4f7811d18a150000e816ae6e/frameset.htm
As far as WM managed components it will still be the same as WM transfer order is created only after goods movement document is posted.
Hope this helps. Else please come back.
thanks,
Ram

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