Batch split ina Production order

I am doing a batch determination for a component in a Production order. The component qty in the Production order is say 600. I do a batch determination for the component all the available batches are diplayed with a suggested batch based on the SORT rule provided. If I try to change the qty on the batch determination screen which is less than 600 then by default it still picks up 600. In a way it does not allow me to determine a batch qty which is less than 600.
But on the batch determination screen if I select multiple batches ( batch 1 = 100, batch 2 = 400 )whose sum total qty less than 600 example say 500 , then it creates split batch records for batch 1 and batch 2 and creates another record for the component called as 'batch total records' for quantity 100.
1) My question is ..is there a way that the system gives a warning message saying that selected batches have only qty = 500 and not 600.
2) When I do a confirmation for the order using CO15 , on the goods movement screen only qts batch 1= 100 and batch 2 = 400 are proposed for the component But NOT the remaining qty of 100 for the unallocated 100.
Am i missing something here

May be the sort rule is based on the quantity and not on Batch.
Please check this. If this is based on the FIFO for batch then it should select the batch which was posted first rather than on quantity.
Hope this helps you.

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Hi Onat,
Thanks for ur reply.
I want to split GR101. actually. i have shown individually to my client means select line item and split one by one. but theey are saying that 200 times to do this is not possible. please suggest ow resolve this.
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This is the process which is followed at our customer end, they want to split the batches during confirmation,
1.Production order created
2.While going through each operation, some components are failing in the in-process inspection and they need to be quarantained for further process,(it may be rework, scrap, etc)
3.Now the question is we want to create individual batches, say for example out of 100qty which went operation number 10, 50 were found to be o.k. and the remaining 50 are having defects, we want to create two different batches for this scenario at the time of confirmation.
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Dear Vanket,
In the operation you can confirm Yield, Scrap and rework quantity.
In your case in each operation you need to create a batch for each qty what you enter.
As I told you before batch can be created either production order release or during GR.
In each operation you are not going to perform GR, hence batch creation is not possible.
You have 2 options as I see.
1. Create different intermediate materials and have production orders for each operation so that you can do the GR for each production order.
You can have the same batch for each stage material so that issuing material and production materials are different but batch is same.
If there is any defective quantity you need to decide you want to scrap it or you want to go for rework. If you want to go for rework then, using trigger point function you can create a auto rework order for the qty of rework entered during confirmation.
2. Second option is you can create a production order as you are doing now, but you need to create batch manually in MSC1n transaction for rework as well as yield qty.
You can confirm the yield qty and rework qty, but you cannot assign the batch as you are not performing GR. You can enter the batch number in the confirmation text field for information purpose. During the final operation when you do the GR, assign the batch to yield qty and post. About the rework qty you are not going to post qty to store, you need to create rework order and confirm the qty, during GR you can assign the batch and do GR.
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Automatic Batch Determination for production order components is possible by configuration.
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Automatic Batch Determination in Production order

Dear All,
We are using automatic batch determination is based on FIFO (first Mfg first out) for components..After releasing the order.
I have maintained Batch Class in all the materials which are used as a all material special Characteristic LOBM_HSDAT as a one of the class characteristic. as we want batch determination on GR date for few material and for few material LOBM_VFDAT for self life material and its class.
Then create Sort Rule CU70 mainatained the same LOBM_HSDAT in it. and one with LOBM_VFDAT.
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After mainting above all prerequisite I should able to do the Automatic Batch Determination as per my selection Rule.
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Manish
Edited by: manish gurnule on Dec 30, 2008 5:26 AM

Dear,
Define the batch determination search strategy for process order in COB1 with sort rule in CU70.
On the initial screen of your application choose Logistics>centrel function>batch management>Batch determination>For process order -->Batch search strategy --> Create.
On the initial screen of your application choose Batch search strategy -->Create.
Choose the strategy type, say choose co02
Choose the key combination-
Enter the required dat-->say plant ,production order type, product,valid from and component for which you want to have this
Choose Selection criteria push button. Choose a sort sequence.
If no values have been entered, enter the selection class and the characteristic values.
Go back to the screen on which you create a batch search strategy.
Choose Sort if required(it should be defined earlier(in CU70- here you are giving the charateristic name on which you want to sort)
For component you need to use MBC1 with search stratgey as ME01 for your plant movement type and material and assign the sort rule and search procedure here.
Check also in COR4, for the combination of plant and order type...you have selected search procedure-CO0001
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I am not sure whether you can change the Batch SELECTION logic for concurrent production order .As far as I know batch selection is done on Batch search strategy /sort Rule
Explore SAP Help : http://help.sap.com/printdocu/corePrint46c/en/data/pdf/LOBM/LOBM.pdf
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Enrico,
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_470/helpdata/en/25/283c3f4f7811d18a150000e816ae6e/frameset.htm
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