Batch traceability in Process Industries

Hi All,
I would like to use the batch traceabilty functionality and the current industry is a process INdustry , but using the MB56 transaction gives me the batch traceabilty at the order level only. In case of our scenario we have multiple batches for single order and the order continues for several days. The output of MB56 gives all the batches for the order rather than the only required batch. How can I get the batch tracing for the components to the header material - bot top down and bottom up.
Regards,
Amol Kale

When you work in this manner, allowing the production of many batches out of one process order, then you can't get a single batch-to-batch relation because there's no such information in the system. It just doesn't exist, it was never reported, so system can't know.
If you need (because of regulatory or GMP reasons) to have a one-to-one relationship, then you need to revise the way you use process orders.
Otherwise you need to manage it in a self made side application into which you will have to report separately.
There's a new functionality called WIP Batches. You may investigate it to see if it can help you.

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Hi,
I am encountering a strange issue during component batch determination of process order.
1. During creation of process order, when I execute batch determination, systems does determination based on strategies we have set and when I click on Copy it gives an error
"Log cannot be saved: Object/subobject not specified"
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I checked for all plant related Config for batch determination and coudn't find any discrepancies.
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Kindly reply to the mail.

Hi
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