Battery Backup APC vs. Belkin

Hello...
Can anyone advise which is better for a battery backup for my PowerMac G5 (APC vs. Belkin)?
Thanks!

My experiences with both Belkin and APC.
Get an APC.
The belkin I had had to be disassembled to change the battery that they did not have a battery for that model.
I bought an APC. I found that after a couple of system updates it did not shut down the computer. They worked with me for weeks on a solution and were very helpful. The battery that they sent me to help resolve the problem was an extremely easy plug and use type of thing.
We found out that it did not shut down as the supplied software was not compatible with the later Mac OS updates. The told me to uninstall power chute. It turns out it comflicted with the mac power saver shutdown option.
Do no install power chute for Macs. Use the native power option under energy saver in system preferences. Select setting for and pick the UPS option. Then there are three shutdown options to use. I use the first by checking it and selecting one minute.
You will need to use the USB cable that comes with the APC unit.
The battery level will also show up. The battery level drops very fast even thought it had plenty of minutes left on battery. I have gone over nine minutes with my RS 800 unit and it did not run out of power. I have onlt the computer and monitor on battery backup.
The level drops to zero in about one minute but this is bogus and it will go much longer on battery. I pull the plug and this is how I test the unit. I do not know if APC has noted this problem with the Mac in their APC UPS boxes. They will not undate their software as fast as apple. It is not needed use the Mac OS options and it should work OK.
I have no idea if Leopard has made any difference in the native power option.

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You don't have to, but if you don't, when the battery runs out, your Mac will crash.
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