Battery drain question

Hi All,
I have a question about my battery drain. I just want to check and see if it is rather normal.
Last evening I unplugged my iPad after its first full charge (wore the battery down to like 6% the previous night). Took it with me on a car ride, turned it on on occasion in the car, just seeing wifi hotspots and such. Then played around with it for a while. By the time I got home the battery was at like 98/97%. Then used it a moderate amount later on, and while browsing the web I noticed the battery dropped a good 1+% every couple minutes while simply browsing the web.
I noticed that trend last night while browsing, then stopping and browsing again (turning the device from a locked state to working).
Is the 1/2% drop every we shall say 10-15 minutes of web surfing good or bad. Sorry for the paranoid question, just curious.
Terry

Lets say the iPad drops 2% every 10 minutes while browsing. So at a rate of 2% you will be able to use the ipad for 100%/2%*10minutes=500 minutes
divide that by 60 minutes in an hour and you get 8 hours and 20 minutes which isn't that far off of up to 10 hours of usage. I think that's pretty good considering I used the worst case scenario from the numbers you provided.
There are plenty of factors including distance from the router, brightness level, temperature etc.
Message was edited by: enderx

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    Identifier: dataaccessd
    Version: ??? (???)
    Code Type: ARM (Native)
    Parent Process: launchd [1]
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    OS Version: iPhone OS 4.2.1 (8C148a)
    Report Version: 104
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    0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x311de2d4 0x31165000 + 496340
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    2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x311de2b6 0x31165000 + 496310
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    17 DADaemonEAS 0x35d7694e 0x35d75000 + 6478
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    26 CFNetwork 0x346451f2 0x34641000 + 16882
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    31 CFNetwork 0x34644f92 0x34641000 + 16274
    32 CoreFoundation 0x314867d6 0x31430000 + 354262
    33 CoreFoundation 0x314585b0 0x31430000 + 165296
    34 CoreFoundation 0x31457e54 0x31430000 + 163412
    35 CoreFoundation 0x31457c80 0x31430000 + 162944
    36 CoreFoundation 0x31457b88 0x31430000 + 162696
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    * Call stack at first throw:
    0 CoreFoundation 0x33ac0987 __exceptionPreprocess + 114
    1 libobjc.A.dylib 0x3347b49d objcexceptionthrow + 24
    2 CoreFoundation 0x33ac07c9 +[NSException raise:format:arguments:] + 68
    3 CoreFoundation 0x33ac0803 +[NSException raise:format:] + 34
    4 CoreFoundation 0x33a445e5 -[__NSCFDictionary setObject:forKey:] + 244
    5 DAEAS 0x339df2cb -[ASEvent eventByMergingInLosingEvent:account:] + 974
    6 DAEAS 0x339db2cb -[ASEvent eventByMergingInEvent:account:] + 46
    7 DADaemonEAS 0x324665bb -[ASAgent(FolderContentsSync) _syncResultForFolder:newTag:previousTag:actions:results:changeIdContext:isIniti alSync:moreAvailable:dataclass:resultingChangeActionsForServer:pushedCalendarAct ions:rejectedServerIds:eventsWithPendingInvitationEmails:] + 2070
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    9 DADaemonEAS 0x32462121 -[ASAgent(FolderContentsSync) syncResultForEventsFolder:newTag:previousTag:actions:results:changeIdContext:is InitialSync:moreAvailable:pushedActions:rejectedServerIds:] + 60
    10 DAEAS 0x339c6d59 -[ASAccount folderItemsSyncTask:completedWithStatus:error:newSyncKey:added:removed:modified :addedResponse:modifiedResponse:removedResponse:fetchedResponse:] + 960
    11 DAEAS 0x339e7b41 -[ASFolderItemsSyncTask finishWithError:] + 1332
    12 DAEAS 0x339f9ecd -[ASTask didProcessContext:] + 16
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    15 Foundation 0x3364b78f _NSURLConnectionDidFinishLoading + 78
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    17 CFNetwork 0x30c9c1f9 _ZN19URLConnectionClient26ClientConnectionEventQueue33processAllEventsAndConsum ePayloadEP20XConnectionEventInfoI12XClientEvent18XClientEventParamsEl + 100
    18 CFNetwork 0x30c9c0eb _ZN19URLConnectionClient13processEventsEv + 70
    19 CFNetwork 0x30c9c09d _ZN13URLConnection24multiplexerClientPerformEP18RunLoopMultiplexer + 36
    20 CFNetwork 0x30c9c01b _ZN17MultiplexerSource7performEv + 126
    21 CFNetwork 0x30c9bf99 ZN17MultiplexerSource8performEPv + 8
    22 CoreFoundation 0x33a767dd _CFRUNLOOP_IS_CALLING_OUT_TO_A_SOURCE0_PERFORM_FUNCTION_ + 12
    23 CoreFoundation 0x33a485b7 __CFRunLoopDoSources0 + 382
    24 CoreFoundation 0x33a47e5b __CFRunLoopRun + 230
    25 CoreFoundation 0x33a47c87 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 230
    26 CoreFoundation 0x33a47b8f CFRunLoopRunInMode + 58
    27 dataaccessd 0x00001cad 0x0 + 7341
    28 dataaccessd 0x00001b40 0x0 + 6976
    Fri Mar 4 07:02:39 iPhone com.apple.dataaccess.dataaccessd[24] <Notice>: terminate called after throwing an instance of '
    Fri Mar 4 07:02:39 iPhone com.apple.dataaccess.dataaccessd[24] <Notice>: NSException
    Fri Mar 4 07:02:39 iPhone com.apple.dataaccess.dataaccessd[24] <Notice>: '
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    Some Users have Reported that a  Restore as New  has helped Resolve issues...
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    Ronald

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  • Possible solution to iOS 7.0.3 battery drain issue (iPhone 5).

    Not a question as such, but for anyone who's having battery drain issues on iOS 7.0.3 and doesn't want to attempt upgrade to iOS 7.0.4 revision yet...
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  • WiFi loss & battery drain a software issue, not hardware

    I wrote the commentary below after installing IOS 7 on a 4S and resultantly losing WiFi entirely and enduring major battery drain issues. After two trips to the Apple store and meeting with their techs at the "genius" bar, I was emphatically told that the issues were entirely hardware related and the only solution was to purchase a new phone. I was told there was nothing more to be done because the hardware was defective... either just use the not-so-smart phone as it is or buy a new smart one.
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    [IMAGE http://i.imgur.com/M2to9.png]
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    [IMAGE http://i.imgur.com/2HNdV.png]
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    [IMAGE http://i.imgur.com/4tbyY.png]
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    [IMAGE http://i.imgur.com/XMT0y.png]
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    luvmyrescuedogs wrote:
    A big Thank You!!! for letting us know about the firmware upgrade for the Zen Micro. I just downloaded the firmware upgrade and upgraded my Audible Manager. No problems. It warned me that all my music would be wiped out, but it is all still there. Playing great. Wonder why Creative didn't announce it here before Audible did?
    luvmyrescuedogs
    I think the warning is for upgrading from .x firmware in general. Changing between the .x and 2.x families wipes out the hard dri've; minor upgrades within each family don't. (I didn't lose any of my music while going from 2..02 to 2.20.05 either.)
    It's hard to say why Audible beat Creative to the punch; my best guess is that Creative is applying EU volume limits to the European version before releasing it anywhere. (Audible's UK site doesn't list the Micro yet.)

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