Battery health drastically reduced

hello all.
first off, this is a 15" from i believe 2007. i bought it used with an applecare plan which was good through march of 2010.
i don't remember exactly when, but back during winter i had the mac serviced. i had a red light issue in my headphone jack. when replacing the parts for the jack, they also gave me a new keyboard (as one key had been broken by my cat and another wasn't working great) apple also decided my battery wasn't up to standard and replaced it. i hadn't felt it was in too bad of shape, but i appreciated the new battery - it was great!
that background is just to say - this battery is less than a year old. and has been in the mid 90 % of health as of around 2 weeks ago, and has 57 cycles. last week it was running unplugged with only itunes and firefox running and shut down without ever saying power was low, etc.
when i rebooted, the battery health had dropped to a staggering 50 or 60%. i was shocked, but i thought maybe cycling it down and doing a full recharge would help. unfortunately, the same thing happened as i was trying to discharge the battery. it shut off at probably 50% charge. this time i rebooted to 40% health. not learning my lesson, i tried one more time to discharge and cycle. when rebooting after another shutdown, i was at 24% battery health.
since then i've only run plugged in, as it won't last otherwise. health is 28% but i don't expect it to get much higher.
any idea why my battery crapped out after only a few months and 57 cycles? i had my old battery since buying it used and then using it for nearly 2 years myself. it's health was still around 80%. so i don't believe it's my usage habits.
my applecare of course is now run out. anyone have experience in this situation? since apple recently gave me a "new" battery and it crapped out well before its time...do you think they would help me out, or will i have to buy a new one at full price? i haven't had a chance to stop in or call yet, as i'm in the middle of remodeling a house i just bought, and i'm getting married within a month.
just wanted to see if anyone had a similar experience.
thanks!

Check these two links out.
http://installingcats.com/2008/04/07/apple-macbook-short-battery-life-problems/
http://www.apple.com/support/macbook_macbookpro/batteryupdate/

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dnovelta:
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this is my very own self made instruction of "how to increase your battery health"
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**this may not be suitable for mac newbies**
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do not open any programm now!
do not have a look at your dashboard!
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step7: take your lamp and spot through the transperent apple logo, position your coconut battery window somehow that you can see the current battery charge und the maxium battery charge in the spot of your lamp through the apple logo.
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step10: there is kind of battery buffer made of approximately 1% (once when my "current battery charge" was 3624mAh and this kind of buffer was at 36mAh)
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when your current battery charge turns under this kind of battery buffer, your maximum battery charge should change. hopefully it is higher or stays the same. when it is lower now: i'm sorry - i have warned you. may be you have to go through this 'how to' more carefully!?
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step12: load until the orange light turns green
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-->webcal://www.apple.com/batteries/images/notebook_icalreminder.ics
(via: http://www.apple.com/batteries/notebooks.html)
anyone with similar experiences about increasing battery health!?
(yes, i'm sorry for my poor english, i've tried my best)

Me too! My battery lasts for 10 minutes. It is awful and I am on my 4th power adapter since they keep breaking too.
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