Battery Problems - Replacement needed?

Hi everyone!
I've not posted on this forum before but just thought here would be the best place to come to ask for expertise and opinions!
Okay i'll cut to the chase!
Roughly 18 months ago I purchased a lovely Macbook Pro with the Macbook Pro Applecare too.
In January 2009 I realised that the battery wasn't too good health wise.
Since brand new battery life was roughly 3 and a half hours
Since January 2009 the battery lasted roughly over an hour/hour and a half.
Since May 2009 the battery barely even lasts 30 minutes. (iStat Pro says my battery health is 14%)
As you can tell, I am quite annoyed at this! (details of battery information below as of May 2009)
Charge Information:
Charge remaining (mAh): 768
Fully charged: Yes
Charging: No
Full charge capacity (mAh): 781
Health Information:
Cycle count: 267
Condition: Check Battery
Battery Installed: Yes
Amperage (mA): -202
Voltage (mV): 12213
In January I enquired about the battery and would I be able to get a replacement for free due to being covered by the Applecare, but I was told by the man at the Genius Bar that I would have to pay full retail price for a new battery due to batteries not being covered by applecare and the complimentry 1 year warranty was the only thing that covered the battery health.
I read that "Apple claim a battery should retain 80% capacity after 300 cycles" and that getting in touch with customer relations may be a good idea. Can this be applied to my battery information?
Is there anyway I can get my battery replaced by Apple? Or is it a case of paying an obscene amount of money for a new battery which would do the same after 18 months?
Thank you for any help! Additional information if needed will be gladly given!
Chris.

Well another problem - probably related - has occured!
Hopefully, if I can wangle it a bit, would this be able to get a replacement battery under Applecare?
When I do use my Macbook Pro and it isn't plugged in, even though it barely lasts 15 minutes now the "Reserve battery power" window pops up on screen, even when the battery status indicator (top right of the screen) shows that there is 3/4 of the battery power left 2 or 3 times in 5 odd minute gaps (black too).
Due to this error, and Applecare wanting to solve almost any problems encountered with Macs, would I be able to - if I use craftyness and ingenuity - be able to get a replacement battery?
Is this a good idea or not?
Thanks for any help, and thanks to Kappy for replying!
Chris

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If you haven't read of my battery and power problem before here is the run down.
-battery won't charge(0% and then eventually "No Batteries Availiable")
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-Its not the DC-in board. No, no... I replaced that and it did nothing, it probably won't help you either.
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-Battery is Charged(Used my friends iBook). Yet my iBook will not power on from the battery.
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-They have the same problems I have stated.
-All the Resets in the world don't help them
-Some of them mention a noise coming from the iBook.
-Some of them mention buying third party power Adapters.
-The thread usually ends with them asking more questions and replies never come so they give up.
-They all usually go unresolved or Solved in the case that they just buy a new laptop.
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+I purchased My Power-Adapter from Ebay. It looked legit and everything and it provides the iBook with power pretty well. Yet I stumbled across something. It says on the Power Adapter that it is a 65(watt) Power Adapter. But when I check in the System Profiler, This is what it reads:+
+AC Charger Information:+
+AC Charger (Watts): 45+
+Connected: Yes+
+Now why would the Power Adapter say 65(watts) but when I check the stats on my iBook it receives 45(watts). I have checked all the stats of these iBooks and I know that they need 65(watts) to function properly. Some people say 45w will power an iBook fine but I think this is why the battery won't charge. The power Adapter I bough online clearly stated that it will work correctly on my model and it Even says 65w on the adapter.+
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After reading what people other people have posted on here I thought I would sign up and see if anyone can help me resolve this problem now that I have had two n100 batteries to exactly the same thing to me.
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