BCLK STUCK!!! BIOS 17.6 Problem with Prefetcher???MSI Z77 Mpower

BIOS 17.6 added the new CPU features.
I think the new BIOS CPU features of "Hardware Prefetcher" item and "Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch" options are part of the problem. When I disable hardware prefetcher my memory performance shoots way down. BUGGY!!!!
I am unable to over clock my BCLK. What is going on!!! HELP!!!

Quote from: xmad on 17-January-13, 08:44:47
Also for best oc result flash to the lastest release or beta bios listed here.
>>Beta BIOSes<<
Follow the directons to make sure the manaement engine extension of bios is flashed as well.
Follow this link to some screen shots of other z77's using various overcocks:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=162043.0
Have the latest BIOS and latest management extension flashed as well.
I have had this work before with no problems. I was one of the first people to get a MSI Z77 Mpower board. Never had this type of problem with any other BIOS. Problem started with 17.6 BIOS. I have had all the BIOS flashed on my RIG since I have had it.
Not sure what the problem is. Thanks for you help. Those over clocking charts are helpful but not specific to MSI Z77 Mpower mother board and the BIOS is different. Not sure if they are updated to include the new CPU features of "Hardware Prefetcher" item and "Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch" that BIOS 17.6 started to use.

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To go a step farther, when the board is outside of the case, you should have a monitor connected to the onboard graphics or a discrete card, 1 stick of RAM in the primary DIMM slot, and CPU with it's cooler for initial startup. Be sure to test on a non conductive surface of unprinted plain cardboard or an untreated wood surface.

MOVED: BCLK STUCK!!! BIOS 17.6 Problem with Prefetcher???MSI Z77 Mpower

This topic has been moved to Overclocking, Undervolting.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=165456.0

Quote from: xmad on 17-January-13, 08:44:47
Also for best oc result flash to the lastest release or beta bios listed here.
>>Beta BIOSes<<
Follow the directons to make sure the manaement engine extension of bios is flashed as well.
Follow this link to some screen shots of other z77's using various overcocks:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=162043.0
Have the latest BIOS and latest management extension flashed as well.
I have had this work before with no problems. I was one of the first people to get a MSI Z77 Mpower board. Never had this type of problem with any other BIOS. Problem started with 17.6 BIOS. I have had all the BIOS flashed on my RIG since I have had it.
Not sure what the problem is. Thanks for you help. Those over clocking charts are helpful but not specific to MSI Z77 Mpower mother board and the BIOS is different. Not sure if they are updated to include the new CPU features of "Hardware Prefetcher" item and "Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch" that BIOS 17.6 started to use.

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Quote from: pikka68 on 30-March-13, 01:11:43
The site msi: http://www.msi.com/product/mb/Z77-MPOWER.html#/?div=Detail
USB 3.0
• 6 USB 3.0 rear I/O ports (2 ports by Intel® Z77, 4 ports by Renesas®uDP72020
The site Renesas: http://www.station-drivers.com/page/renesas.htm
is located : uPD720200 & uPD720200a , and uPD720201 & uPD720202
Syntax error or other reason?! uDP----uPD
Quote from: xmad on 30-March-13, 01:19:29
I had a bunch of trouble getting my BBxII to flash with win 8.
Try opening an elevated cmd promt and manually typing the commands using the files from station drivers.
Syntax:
w200fw35 /srom 0 /writeall f401502.mem cfg.ini
if that one doest work, replace the other firmware: f302808.mem
I attached the package, just extract them somewhere easy to naviagate.
tried .. the two options .. always "dece not found"!
Syntax error or other reason?! uDP----uPD
thanks for your help ..
Greetings ..
Pikka68

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Hey man, I feel your pain, and I feel obligated to post this because of the way everybody else is treating the problem.
Let me point this out to everybody:
This guy knows what he's doing, he isn't doing anything stupid. This IS a problem with this MSI board. How do I know? Because my computer setup is doing the exact same thing. I've been through 2 boards and 3 CPU's now. My setup worked fine for 2 weeks, then one day it just stopped working. It turns on for 5 seconds, then just turns itself off. It does not post. D-Bracket claims it is a bad or badly seated CPU. It lies. I just put in a brand new working CPU today, and i'm getting the same issue. It IS the motherboard. Now I just have to get it fixed from MSI somehow. I feel comforted knowing i'm not the only one with this problem. I just replied to some other guys post about having this issue.
I just posted my issue on another motherboard, but I will post it here as well for you all to read so that you know this issue is more widespread than it may seem.
Boy, what a ride this has been so far.
Let me briefly explain the issue. Got a the motherboard and a XP64 3200+ from newegg.com, etc. Plug it all together - nothing. I've built plenty of systems, and i've built several using thet MSI K8N board, also. I discover that the RAM is bad and the motherboard is also bad. Repeat as necessary several times.
Long story short, I'm on CPU #3 and Mobo #2, soon to be #3.
The 1st CPU was returned because a friend was working on the system and pulled the heatsink off and the CPU stuck to the bottom of the heatsink and some of the pins got bent/broke. (This is due to the poor design of the heatsink holder on the MSI board. There is WAY too much surface area between the heatsink and the CPU for the heatsink to be enclosed how it is on this board.. trying to pull them apart like that is just impossible. It can't be done. It has to be at an angle. . Only way).
Now, after we got the motherboard RMA'd and bought a new CPU, everything worked fine and dandy.
Two weeks later, one day the system just won't boot. There is no video signal at all. The problem is that when the system turns on, it runs for about 7 seconds.. all the fans turn on, etc. and then it just turns itself off.
I've tried different power supplies, i've tried only with the CPU, Mobo, and RAM, and hell, i've even tried it without the RAM. I've tried it out of the case, to check for shorts. Nothing. I've checked the power switch to be sure it isn't being stuck on, it's not. There is no reason, whatsoever for the computer to do this. The Diagnosis LED Lights show all 4 red which means badly seated or damaged CPU. Ok. So I RMA the CPU. I just get it back today, and we're on the 3rd CPU now. Plugged it all together.. brand new CPU. The old one obviously didn't work or else they wouldn't have RMA'd this one to us. They should have tested this one first too, I think.
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The computer turns on, lights fans etc. come on, and 7 seconds later the computer shuts down. There are no BIOS beep codes, no video signals, NOTHING.
This really only leaves me with one conclusion - the motherboard is bad. There are only 2 choices, CPU or Motherboard, and the CPU is brand new.. and the problem was the same with the last one ... common denomonator is the motherboard. Now its been so long waiting for the RMA on the CPU and everything ... plus the 2 weeks that this motherboard worked, that newegg probably won't take back the motherboard. My only real options is to send it to MSI for repair or something.
This is a very sad day. The only thing I can think would have happened is that the motherboard had some kind of voltage issue to the CPU.. maybe some kind of electric jolt that damaged the CPU socket and the CPU itself so that now nothing works. I'm most afraid that the motherboard is damaging the CPU's.. and that this new one we just put in could be damaged from the motherboard also.
These things are expensive... I can't afford for all this to keep going. I've easily spent $150 - $200 doing RMA's for all this ****. It's just ****ing rediculous. I should win an award for most computer problems.
Before I start freaking out about this even more, let me get to the point of this post.
Has anybody else experienced something like this? Specifically with this board? With something else? What the hell can I do about this, or is my only option the motherboard.. as far as I can tell.. it can't be anything else.
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>>MSI Downloads<<
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Welcome to the discussions,
if you connect your ipod to itunes and look at the colored info bar at the bottom of the window, does it show different colors or just one orange "other" part? As you got errors while syncing, there might be corrupt data files on your ipod filling it up. Try to restore again to get rid of the great orange part. After that the "other" section should be reduced to max. of 500MB or less.

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Hi, I'm experiencing 2 problems with this board and I have not yet install an OS in it
first problem : in the bios if I go in the section Green Power, the system froze, I have to press reset to reboot
second problem : if I install 2 stick of memory in the blue slot, it work fine
if I remove them and place them in the black slot, it work fine
if I place 4 sticks at the same time, the system crash and reboot and make a loop
here the stick I try : Patriot PVV34G1600LLR 4 of them
G Skill F3-12800cl9q-16GBRL 4 of them
I see that new version of BIOS is supose to fix some problem with compatibility of memory, the problem is the way the board shut down when I put 4 stick, it's like the board is overload the led don't act like when you press the resset, they kind dim before the board crash
thanks and sorry for my english , I must add that it's more than 25 years I build computer I build around 3 a week, I have never RMA one motheboard until now.

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the problem is the way the board shut down when I put 4 stick, it's like the board is overload
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do you mean I have to enable XMS ?
Actually, it's not likely a mainboard overload at all, it's probably the CPU IMC having the problem. Enable of X.M.P. is the last thing you want to do. If the RAM has to be set in this manner, it is not programmed to properly default at the platform's designed specifications. BIOS revisions dealing with compatibility are being worked on to make up for this RAM manipulation.
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EDIT
Just in case you wanted to know.. My motherboard is a MSI P35 Neo
Last edited by rahanjam (2008-10-07 14:03:35)

pointone wrote:*snip*
I don't have this AHCI option. So i don't know what to do else. Do you know?
AD28 wrote:*snip*
Do you mean, that my mobo doesent support linux, and that i cannot have it?

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The specs are quite useless to be honest. Follow >>Posting Guide<< exactly.
And the problem with the FPS reported is? It doesn't look bad.

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Quote from: toon5b01 on 10-January-15, 22:55:47
I don't have a malware attack, I haven't really downloaded any programs i know of but is there a way how to know i have a software conflict
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Hello,
Unfortunately today I stumbled upon a problem.. I was updating the Z77 Mpower bios and it all worked flawlessy for the bios update, when It restarted to update de ME it stopped at 68% and restarted by itself.. It's useless to say that the bios won't start, it does not even post...
The real problem is that this had happened to me a while back too with the other bios so both of them seem bricked
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Well I'm getting somewhat desperate as I'm in a need on this computer running..
Please tell me there's something that can be done, because I don't want to rma either as I'm in raid 0 and I'll be loosing all of my things..
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You could also buy a programmer and do it yourself. I did when I bricked a board. :-)
I got an SPI programmer based on the CH341A chip and in circuit programming clip for about $20 shipped from China. Search for EN25T80 or spi programmer on eBay. It will be less than $10 for a cheap programmer. The downside is the long wait for shipping.
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First im dutch(netherlands) so sorry for my maybe bad english.
My system is:
Asus p8z77 v deluxe mb
intel 3770k cpu
16gb ram 1866 Corsair
2x ssd 256 gb OCZ
MSI 290x gaming
win7 64bit ultimate.
When i came home with my card i removed my old 7970 and replaced it with my new card.
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Also posible that something with the OC attemp CPU broke something?
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Im at a lost here, hope one of you know a solution or whats my problem?
Hope ive supply enough info im bit of a newbie at this sorry for that.
Thanks in advance.

>>Clear CMOS<< of your board and retry.

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Thanks a lot Wonkanoby for the help. It didnt help my error but it sure cleared it up. There were several capacitor that leaked, just as the pics on the site you sent http://www.overclockers.com/tips00140/, it shows clearly on thoose. Cant beleive how that problem can be so big and seems like they are doing nothing about it either.
Well thanks for a great Forum here, and thanks to you Wonkanoby.
The motherboard is dumped... thinking of going back to good old ASUS
Then its Rock´n Roll agian
Have a great day.

BCLK STUCK!!! BIOS 17.6 Problem with Prefetcher???MSI Z77 Mpower

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