BCS 604 SP6 - Change to Consolidation Group extra features

Hi All,
We've upgraded from SP0 to SP6 and noticed some new options for CCG config:
IN UCWB we have rthe following new options:
1. under Consolidation area --> Settings --> Consolidation Functions used, we have:
(checkbox) Separation of Goodwill from Investment (ERP 2005)
2. Under Changes to Consolidation group we had:
- Selected Items
- Task
- Document Type
- System Utilization - NEW
> (checkbox) Other Comprehensive Income in Total Divestiture
Help on "1" reveals:
If you select this checkbox, you enable the separation of goodwill from the investment relationship.
Use
If the Separation of Goodwill from Investment function is active, you can manually enter a goodwill entry on a separate consolidation unit for the Reclassification of Treasury Stock activity. The system does not post a minority interest to effects from valuation allowance or currency translation. The system suppresses the posting of minority interests on the assumption that no investment and equity data exist for a separate consolidation unit for which you have entered a manual goodwill entry. (However, the system does not check whether investment and equity data on the separate consolidation unit really do not exist.)
Help on "2":
Other Comprehensive Income in Total Divestiture
If you select this checkbox, you enable the system to post the other comprehensive income in the Total Divestiture activity with an effect on net income.
Use
If the Other Comprehensive Income in Total Divestiture function is active, the system posts the group value of the other comprehensive income in total divestiture to the income statement.
Dependencies
You define the items for other comprehensive income as a subset of the equity items in Equity Data Customizing on the Other Comprehensive Income tab page. You specify there for each item for other comprehensive income the relevant posting item in the income statement.
Anyone used either of these extra features,
found them useful, any problems?

I have not used the 1st "Separation of Goodwill".
The second feature is needed when Cons of Investment (COI) is not used. I actually configured Cons Grp Chgs with this and subsequently implemented COI in the same system. What happened is that this feature disappeared from Cons Grp Chgs and reappeared in COI > Settings > Appropriation of Retained Earnings.
I hope this helps.

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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_sem60ep1/helpdata/EN/0c/ab0240536fe369e10000000a155106/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_sem60ep1/helpdata/EN/63/af0240536fe369e10000000a155106/frameset.htm
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Hello Gurus!
We are using SEM-BCS for legal consolidation of our consolidation hierarchy. The hierarchy stands as shown below in 04.2014:
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Thank you for your reply Dan.
Responding to your questions:
1) The operation wasn't made with indication of divestiture in period 004/2014. However I tried to test it with that indicator (divestiture with OC), and the results weren't diferent from the ones i'm obtain now.
2) The consolidation group changes were executed.
3) The whole balance sheet accounts. The consolidation group changes were executed at levels 02, 12 and 22.

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Hi All,
Is the task "Preparation for Consolidation Group Changes" only implemented when Consolidation of Investments has also been implemented?
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Any comments, replies or suggestions most welcome.

Hi,
I think that prep for cons group changes is independent (but supplementary to) from CoI.
See what is said in help:
"When in the middle of a fiscal year a consolidation unit is either acquired by a consolidation group (acquisition), divested from a consolidation group (divestiture), or <b>changes its accounting technique</b> (method change), the following data must be adjusted:
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As you can see, not only consolidated data are to be changed, but also Standardized and Reported.
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1. No
2. Yes.
Best regards,
Eugene

BCS - Divestiture consolidation group change

Is there a FM module that would tell me when a company was divested and what the new consolidation group would be?
I'm not a BCS consultant.

There may not be a FM for this.
When you define the consolidation units and consolidation group in BCS in the context of consolidating investments and eliminating inter comoany diviidends.
Even there, you may not get the date on which the disinvesment took place. Consolidation of investments will be carried on a "given day" on which the Balance sheet and BS are drawn.
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Consolidation Group Change and Consolidation Activity

Hi Experts,
I am new in SAP consolidation, I have a question regarding the difference between the function "consolidation group change" and "consolidation activity".
If I read in the sap library, these 2 functions are separated, but if I look at the content, I saw some similarity where the consolidation group change also included the investment activity like acquisition and divestiture.
Could anyone explain what are the difference between these 2 function?
When I was a user, if the group acquiered a new cons unit, I just add a new cons unit in the consolidation group hierarchy, assign consolidation method, add the additional financial data for the ownership percentage (activity = first consolidation), enter the reported financial data, run CI function and add one more column in my report painter.
When I read SAP library, I saw the "consolidation group change" function talking about the consolidation activity, now I wonder, what are the difference? What is the business scenario for using the "normal" CI activity and the "consolidation group change"? Please anyone advise. Thank you.
regards,

Normal C/I is a regular acquisition or divestiture. Cons Group Change could be movement of a company from one consolidation group to another (i.e., parent A sells company 1 to parent B). Or you own a company 20% and purchase an additional 60% and must switch accounting technique from Equity to Purchase. BCS will need to book Cons Group Change entries to account for the acct technique change. (In the past, at 20%, you would only book equity pickup, or equitization entries, to the parent as PL30 adjustments in the CoI. Now you must bring in the complete balances of the company due to purchase method of consolidation. BCS books consolidation-group specific adjustments to do this.)
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"Normal C/I activity"
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"Cons Group Change"
Company A is consolidated in Cons Group 1, but starting in 06/2007 they will be sold to a parent in Cons Group 2. Update the Cons Group master data...setting company A to divest in 06/2007 from CG1 and to First Consolidate in CG2 starting in 06/2007. If using Org Change logic, create an Org Change number and define a sender/receiver relationship for CG1 --> CG2. In additional financial data, create a total transfer activity w/ org change logic from CG1 to CG2. Run Org Change task and BCS will zero out balance sheet related to company A in CG1 on posting level 02/12/22. In CG2, similar postings will book "catch up" entries in 06/2007 to bring full balance sheet into CG2. In CoI, company will be transferred to new parent.
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Dear All,
While performing the consolidation group change task, system throws the error message :
Balance sheet/income statement balance 14,560,497.62- INR
Message no. UCD1011
Diagnosis
The document to be posted is not completely in balance.
Entries involving items of the balance sheet or the income statement must always have a zero balance to ensure that both the balance sheet and the income statement are balanced, respectively. This is not true in this case.
System Response
Entry cannot be posted.
Procedure
Correct the amounts for the balance sheet items and/or income statement items.
I have checked the COI Settings and not showing any error.
I have analysed the problem and found that system is not picking one FS item 107501 i.e Profit and Loss CY.
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Hi DAN,
i ll elaborate what i wanted to convey.
When we upload
1. TB Equal to ZERO
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when u run profit calculation task, after data upload and validation, system will pass the following entry,
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BS - Profit and loss - CY -           Dr
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COI not reading equity data after consolidation group change

Dear experts,
I am running the consolidation of investments task for a new group that has been created on 012.2009. This new group CG2 is a child of an existing one CG1, and all the consolidation units that I have in 012.2009 under CG2 were in 012.2008 under the CG1.
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Hi Sonia
i dont want to confuse you as Dan is guiding so far. let me put my thoughts some here.
CG1 12/2008
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   - CU- B                   12/2008 to 999/9999
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do you have any another sub node for CU-B and CU-C? as B has investment in C
New Group: 12/2009
CG1
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   - CU - B    12/08 to 12/9999
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CG1
    -CU-A
    -CU-B
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             CU - C                12/09 to 999/9999
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How did you maintain B investments in C at CG1 12/08 level?
and or    as per Dan
You have to run PREP for CONSOLIDATION GROUP CHANGE task before CT task and after Elim Taks but before COI task
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Execution of preparation for consolidation group changes

Hello,
In 1/2011 there was a change in the consolidation units hierarchy.
A consolidation unit moved to upper consolidation group.
I cannot find in the master data of the consolidation unit , where should I update the FIRST CONSOLIDATION DATE,
and the LAST CONSOLIDATION DATE.
Best regards,
Odelia Volfovich.

Look at the master data of the cons groups - both the initial cons group as well as the new cons group.
If this truly is a vertical move up the hierarchy, the initial cons group should have a period of divestiture, as 001/2011.
Because the cons unit has always been a part of the higher up cons group via the lower cons groups ownership, the new cons group should have period of first consolidation the same as that of the initial cons group.
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Consolidation group change without ownership change

Hi All,
I require help in resolving this particular issue.
I have a company called 1000 which is having a subsidiary called 5010. both of the fall under the same consolidiation group called CG1.
Now I have run the First consolidation as of March 2009 and carry forwarded the balances in 2009.
Now 5010 has invested in 6 more companies and has become a holding company to them.
Now I thought of two options
1. To just create these 6 companies and enter the investment details for these companies and run the COI.
2. To create a new consolidation group called CG2. Put the 5010 company along with its 6 newly acquired subsidiaries under this consoldation group.
I ma exercising the option 2 by creating a new consolidation group as it will easy to get the reports at CG2 level.
As you can observe there has been no transfer of investment happening here. How do i take care of such a situation.
I read the posts regarding the Consolidation group changes but all posts were dealing with change in ownership happening. In my case there is no change in ownership as 1000 still continues to be the holding company. But only difference is that earlier 5010 was existing as a end node but now It has to have a consolidation group of its own where in it will have the holding company 5010 along with its 6 subsidiaries.
Pl give me a solution.
Thanks in advance.
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facts of the scenario
1. Did first consolidation in period 012.2008
2. There is a company 5510 which belongs to CG1 as of first consolidation which was in period 012.2008
3. 5510 has invested in 6 new companies in period 003.2009
4. I want to create a new consolidation group CG2 and put the existing company 5510 along with 6 new companies under this group (client requirement)
5. I created a new consolidation group CG2 and assigned the company 5510 to this group along with 6 new companies
6. In consolidation group CG1 mentioned the divesture period as 003.2009 (DABP ticked) for 5510 company
7. in Consolidation group CG2 mentioned the First consolidation period as 003.2009 (FCEP unticked) against 5510 company
8. The figures are not accurate at the CG2 group level.
Should I be doing anything else apart from the above steps.
Will appreciate a fast reply as it is stopping the go-live
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We have document type of posting level 12, to reverse the document type of posting level 10 (standardizing entries) when consolidation unit change the group or leaves the group.
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Hi Experts,
I have worked on BCS but new to consolidation of investments and PCC.
I am not able to understand the Preparation for Consolidation (PCC) tasks as to why are they required. I've the following questions: -
1. SAP help says PCC tasks are supplementary to the C/I tasks. Could you elaborate on how are the suuplementary to C/I tasks?
2. What is the diff. between Acuisition in case of C/I and in case of PCC?
3. In terms of reporting what will go worng if we don't run PCC tasks after a new acquisition let say.
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SSC

1. PCC creates records to offset the balance sheet balances upon divestiture. These records include the relevant cons group values, where most BCS records do not include cons group because cons group in most cases is determined dynamically via the BCS virtual infocube function module's consolidations logic.
2. PCC records and documents only occur when there is a divestiture in the master data for a cons group. This could occur for a divestiture or transfer activity. Acquisition does not affect PCC, except when it occurs as a result of a transfer, and it is relevant to the divestiture portion of the transfer as opposed to the acquisition portion.
3. Nothing after an acquisition, it is mainly for divestitures and transfers (where a divestiture is necessary in the cons group master data).

Issue when 2 consolidation group hierarchies used in one single query

Dear experts,
I have an issue.
I need to build a query where we compare our forecast data (figures for year end 12.2009) to our plan 2010 data.
The problem is that we changed (in our consolidation system SEM BCS) our consolidation group hierarchy for next year only , (for the plan : the change has been done from march 2010 on the version P1 used for the plan)
Ex :
In forecast the structure is as below :
We have a zone France/Spain/Portugal that includes :
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2. the business unit France 2 with french companies D, E.
3. the business Unit Spain : with spanish company A, B C etc.
4.The business Unit Portugal : with portuguese company A, B, C etc.
Our Plan conso group hierarch is as below :
We have a zone FRANCE (France/Spain/Portugal does not exit anymore) that includes :
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2. the BU France 2 with french companies D, E
In my query i want to compare a business unit profit and Loss Forecast Versus Plan.
If i select as a consolidation group, exemple the business unit France 1 (which no longer has the same Zone above but still exists in the hierarchy), I have the following error message :
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I have a doubt regarding the feasability of such query...
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Thanks very much for your quick answer Naveen.
Actually i saw with our technical team yesterday that we may have an issue when creating a new conso group hierarchy
SAP note 957506
This problem is caused by program error in the CL_RRHI_INCL_CREATOR_TID class.
The error can occur if a hierarchy contains new characteristic values and if additional hierarchies for the characteristic are activated simultaneously.
We may need a support package to solve this.
As you said, both hierarchies are based on the same characteristic.
I understand that we need pro forma presentation to compare our figures.
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