BCS / Cartesis / BPC (Outlooksoft)

Hi all,
at the moment there is much blabla about BO and BPC. Actually none can tell information with substance. A good friend of mine told me after an Outlooksoft-training it wouldn't be suitable for consolidation. In fact, the trainer told us that. Does anyone have some more (facts!) about this topic?
thanks in advance
BR
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COLLET Thibaud wrote:
> ...
my client had the following point of view :
> - Magnitude is a lot more flexible and user friendly compared to BCS : you can for example perform simulation easily
> - But in Magnitude they were used to perform a lot of things manually, especially regarding COI. Apparently, it is more easy to automatize consolidation treatments in BCS
> ...
Regards,
> Thibaud
This is similar feedback to those who compare Hyperion to BCS (I have often replaced Hyperion with BCS)
The challenge is that the accountants who use the BCS get frustrated that they can't 'fudge' numbers in BCS because there are strict controls such as authorisations, breakdown categories validations etc. (eg one client I had wouldn't even allow manual journals direct in BCS and another client locked down all ad hoc reports in BI), .
Also you cannot argue with the results of automatic functions such as Currency Translation, Eliminations and CoI (assuming the config is correct of course!).
Whereas in Hyperion (and it sounds like Cartesis/Magnitude is similar) is appears that they can manually change results and adjust reports as and when required, with very few of these controls.
However, this is exactly what organisations do NOT need - they need one version of the truth only;
- there should be controls on what can be posted/adjusted in the system
- reports should have the same result no matter who runs them
Anyone agree/disagree?

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Edited by: Alwin Berkhout on Jul 30, 2008 9:37 AM

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