Beat Matching 2 MIDI Regions

Hi,
I have two midi drum regions - one has been recorded by hand to match the audio in my song, and the other has been taken from third party MIDI drum software as a basic MIDI drum pattern, which is exactly in time / quantised. What I want to do is to keep the timing of the hand recorded beat, but to use the drum pattern of the more accurate software pattern in my song. My question is, how would you go about doing this? Is there a quick way to achieve this?
I basically want to replace the hand-played pattern with a more professionally played (interesting) one, but keep the timing of the hand-played one!
Thanks for looking at this.
Z

Hi
Try making a groove template of the "Hand" region, then apply it to the other region
CCT

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