Before image and after image is not updating correctly with 2LIS_04_P_ARBPL

Hello BW gurus
I am facing problem with the posting date extraction from the extractor 2lis_04_p_arbpl. I am getting incorrect before image and after image. Please let me know how to solve this problem.
Thanks and regards
kiran.

Hi,
It is difficult to check this in the Source System and there is no direct method. I can give you a workaround which we did analysed for some of delta datasources.
Steps to be followed sequentiall once the step is successful:
1. Create a Production order or something.. Note down the number.
2. Check the datasource whether you get the same Production Order as delta
3. Now do whatever confirmation etc . for the same Production Order
4. Check the datasource (RSA3) and see wat it extracts.. might be multiple records..
In that case just see the sequence of records.. and the changes each record has brought in.. hope this way we can simulate the delta datasource realtime..
And if you find the sequence or somthin is correct and in BW is not updating properly then it is our fault to dig and find out further.. If the issues is at the RSA3 itself, then u can raise an OSS Message as a Bug.
Hope it helps.
Regards,
Chathia.

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