Beginning Chapter Marker

Hello,
I posted this question earlier and received some helpful info., however, I am still having a problem. To quickly recap, I brought a project from Final Cut Studio, into iDVD (I have DVDSP but still new to this and have not learned to use yet). I created chapter markers in FCP, then exported to a non-self-contained quick time movie, then imported to iDVD. I was told that in order to get rid of the chapter marked 'beginning', (my first chapter in FCP was NOT created in the first second, or the last. It wasn't until about 5 seconds in) to just rename it, after deleting the actual first chapter that I wanted (therefore renaming that one). However, the problem remains that if I do rename it to the first chapter that I want, it starts in the very beginning of the movie, rather than if about the 5th second of the movie, which is where I want it to start, because it matches up to a text frame. Since I now have 4 menu pages, I am only 'allowed' to put music onto 3, therefore leaving the 4th menu pg. with no music. If I did not have this 'beginning' chapter marker, it would have fit onto 3 pgs. I tried deleting it in the 'maps' section, but it did not work, I only got the 'error sound'. Any help w/this would be greatly appreciated, thank you!

Hi Kristina
I think I would address the FCP-forum or may be the FCE (though they don't
get DVD-Studio pro in theis bundles).
Not really getting Your problem. I wounder what the first Chapter 5 sec in
should be good for that "Just start from beginning = Play movie" wouldn't do.
The Chapters in iDVD doesn't play an individual Chapter but is just in-points
to the full movie. Selecting one eg Ch.5 will result in a start at Ch5s beginning
playing to the movie end.
If You want a play one Chapter function You only have two alt:
- Use DVD-Studio pro (OK I'm in the same boat - steep learning curve)
- Reduce the movie to iDVD to half size (duration) than include each Chapter
as an individual movie too. Only way in iDVD.
Yours Bengt W

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Russ H wrote:
…. Later I'll take a look.
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Hi
My thoughts
a. Trash iDVD pref file
b. In FCP - NO Chapter mark at the very beginning ! iDVD Has to do this by it self.
c. From FCP I do
• Export out as a QuickTime .mov file (Chapter marks set to be exported !)
• Not self contained (not important but saves time and space)
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