Beige g3 and PCI wireless quest

Hi,
I have an ancient beige minitower G3 266 that I would like to connect to my wireless network via a PCI card- preferably something cheap. I've been searching the net for a while and haven't found anything. I'd appreciate any info from somebody who's done this successfully- thanks-

One of the problems can be the operating system software version. Although PCI card solutions appear to exist (such as this example), a better way may be to use a wireless Ethernet bridge (also known as a gaming adapter) connected to the Ethernet port. Wireless Ethernet bridge devices (e.g., Belkin F5D7330, D-Link DWL-G810, D-Link DWL-G820, Linksys WET54G, Linksys WGA600N and Netgear WGE111) do not require special drivers and can thus be used under almost any operating system. Study the specifications before you buy; some models/variants do not support WPA security (at least not without a firmware update).
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Thanks for your comments and help. The problem is solved!
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1 - Try to find help in HP support team: they don't help me in any way!!!!
2 - Try to find help in Linksys support team: they help me isolating the problem and they didn't have any kind of error report regarding with Linksys card and MS motherboard. They told me to try the linksys card in another computer to ensure that the card was in perfect conditions. And it was.
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Craig303 wrote:
Hello All!
I just added a free Power Mac G3 233MHz to my collection! For fun, I want to install 10.2.8, add 768 MB RAM, 40GB HD, PCI USB 2.0, PCI ATI 9200 and a PCI Macwireless or Aria wireless card. I want to keep the 233MHz CPU!
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The extra RAM you plan to get will definitely help, but if you lack enough RAM both OS 9 and OS X will use virtual memory swap space on the hard drive, so having that faster through put will also help improve general performance.
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Reposting as previous topic has been locked although has not been resolved. Original post below, please see previous post for more details
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