Being serious about HD and Premiere Pro.

Hi all,
Jeron wrote a reply to a topic on the CS3 windows forum that contained...
"If you are really serious about HD and Premiere Pro, IMHO the only way to go is uncompressed with an Aja Xena card. I have the least problems and get the best quality."
Ok,
can i get some user opinions on what they think are increasing levels of quality with your idea of some hardware/software/editing configuration like the one offered by Jeron?
For instance...
Level 1 - capture compressed via 1394 firewire card and edit in HDV.
Level 2 - capture compressed via 1394b firewire card / convert via Cineform / edit in HD.
Level 3 - capture uncompressed via sdi Aja Xena card and edit in HD.
Any opinions?

Harm pretty much summed it up really well, Nelson.
I've only ever shot HDV so I can only comment on that. If you are shooting HDV, you can...
1. Edit it as HDV
2. Edit it in an intermediate codec like Cineform's
3. Get the hardware to ingest it as uncompressed HD by getting an HD-SDI converter (or use HDMI if you can).
I usually just do #1. Lately I've been using Avid for HDV because it works better for my workflow, which is multi-cam with the audio recorded separately from the video. I'm hoping Adobe can fix the bugs that will make me productive again with PPro, because I miss dynamic link.
I have a HD Connect LE which will let me convert the firewire to HD-SDI and ingest as uncompressed HD (10 bit or 8 bit) using an Aja Xena. I only do that as 10 bit if I want to tweak the image alot with special effects from Lightwave or particleIllusion and with my green screen work.
I don't use #2 because I don't like Cineform's preset and the way it deals with non-Cineform filters and transitions. That is just a personal preference. I tend to use effects that are cross-NLE like Boris FX, so they work the same everywhere, Vegas, Avid, PPro, AE; etc. (Coming from an Avid background where their intermediate works better than native HDV with ALL filters and effects, Cineform was even more disappointing...)
Most people should be fine with Cineform. Chances are you will be happy with #1 or #2. Number 3 is a huge expense which is really not worth it if you are shooting on a compressed format like HDV in the first place. For me it is a better solution than Cineform, though if I want the extra headroom of 10 bit media.
(My comments in that other thread were a reaction to the OP ranting about Adobe not being "professional enough" for him to edit his "feature film" with a $700 HDV camera using "CINEFORM HD". I was trying to tell him if he is really serious, he wouldn't be shooting a "feature film" with a $700 HDV camera and editing in a compressed file workflow.)

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