Belkin firewire express card help

I need installing the belkin usb/firewire express card. Everytime I plug it in, the mbp tries to install it, then it locks up my entire computer.
I'm trying to import video from a camcorder that uses a firewiere 400 cable. I thought I could use this express card to import the video via firewire 400 but it doesn't look like it's working.
any thoughts?
thanks.

Can't help you with a card, but have you tried Firewire 9 to 4 pin cable (or converter)?
Here is one:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?cid=103&cp_id=10301&cs_id=1030104&pid=328&seq=1&format=2
You shouldn't need the express card - FW 800 is backwards compatible with FW 400 and should work as long as you have the physical connections correct. I say should because some folks have had problems with FW 400 devices on FW 800, so it's not necessarily a sure thing...

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Anyone come across a Firewire Express Card 34 Yet? I know SIIG sells them but according to their web site the cards are not OS X compatible.
Thanks!!
Jim

NitroAV's card says it's Mac compatible.
(found it in about five seconds through a Google search, BTW. There's also a post about it five down from yours here in this forum).
Cheers.

Firewire / Express card

I have the late '08 model... the first gen. Some devices work with the firewire port and some not. Some express cards work, some not. All the devises that don't, do work on my older 17" model and all my other macs. Clearly there's an issue with this generation. I have read so on this forum.
I see Apple have released a new 15" now. Does anyone know if the new gen has the same issues of have Apple resolved the fault?

No, those will not work in an ExpressCard to USB adapters. The ExpressCard slot provides access to two different busses in a computer, the PCI bus and the USB bus. The ExpressCard to USB adapters cannot convert between one bus and the other, so the ExpressCards used must be engineered to use the USB bus. As I said, all existing ExpressCard FW cards (at least all I know about) are PCI based and so will not work with the adapters.
As of today there is no solution, unless something's been released very, very recently, to be able to use a Firewire devices (those coming only with FW connectors) with the new aluminum MacBooks.
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Firewire express card issue on X230

Hi all,
I need a firewire port to support a wavefront analyser for my company. I was using before a couple of cards with my X200T and everything was fine.
I just got a X230 with all driver and bios up to date and one of my express card isn't working.
It does still work on the X200T, i've got the new hardware connection under windows 7, but the IEEE1394 card doesn"t show up in the hardware manager, neither the analyser if a connect it to the card.
The other card, that is also based upon a TI chipset, does works.
That is weird. I got some hope upgrading the BIOS to the 1.13 release, but that didn't change anything. Maybe some option somewhere ?
Frédéric.

Is this a particular card not working or no cards work?
If it is specific card then it most likely is not Snow Leopard compatible or it needs updated drivers.

FireWire Solutions are available -- Express Card add-ons

For everyone concerned about the lack of FireWire, the MacBook's ExpressCard slot will support FireWire upgrade cards that will allow for device connectivity. Granted they probably will not support Target Disk Mode, but at least regular functionality will be there.
http://www.sonnettech.com/product/fwusbexpresscard34.html
I expect more companies will put out FireWire express card solutions, but there are some now for users that need it.

Nevermind....there is no ExpressCard slot on the MacBook...got it mixed up with the Pro...grr...

Firewire adapter or express card???

Trying to upload video from my camcorder to my Toshiba satellite A135 but I have no firewire port.... I'm so confused as to if I need a firewire adapter or express card and unfortunately the guys at my best buy are no help at all someone help please

Tape based camcorders have been phased out a number of years now.
It's hard enough to train staff on new and current products. Training staff skills to answer questions about products they no longer sell is much harder
Your camcorder is a MiniDV based camera, so a firewire port is best for asynchronous transfer to minimized dropped frames. Some firewire ports plug into an express card slot.
To clarify, what software are you planning to edit your footage? Some software products may include the necessary port.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Pinnacle+-+Studio+MovieBox+Ultimate+Collection+USB+2.0+Video+Capture+Har...
Reviewing your computer...
it appears you might have a low to mid-range duo core laptop from 2007.... expect your video editing to be slow.
120gb @ 5400rpm may mean your hard drive will be filling up quickly. 1hr of MiniDV footage is 13.7gb. You need work space, swap space and also output space.
Does your laptop only have 1gb of RAM??? You're going to be in pain.
some models already come with a firewire port.
You might want to look at a new quad-core machine.

NitroAV FireWire 800/1394b Express Card (34)

After some foot dragging by FireWire direct, today I finally received the NitroAV FireWire 800/1394b Express Card ordered almost a month ago.
First Impressions: Unimpressive at best.
According to the FireWire direct rep, it is supposed to work using the Mac OS built in drivers and require no additional driver....
Upon first insertion, my MacBook Pro promptly went into a kernel panic.
NOT a good introductory performance!
Upon restart, I did get the thing to work, "sort of".
First, it requires AC power even with a 2.5" external drive meant for bus power. Bummer, but so be it. However, less acceptable: it is VERY fussy about sequence, reminding me of evil SCSI voodoo rituals from the past century. Seems it only likes to work once- if I remove the card, it requires a reboot to recognize anything attached to it subsequently.
Functionality is intermittent. Sometimes I can mount and unmount a drive several times in a row, sometimes just once before it fails to recognize the drive and requires another reboot. One drive it took a long time to recognize but eventually it did- only to freeze up rock solid soon thereafter requiring an uncomfortable long push on the power button to shut down- nothing else worked. That drive was a known to be working Lacie, the first a known to be working WiebeTech and both are totally reliable on my G5 and previously completely reliable on the MacBook Pro using the integrated FireWire 400 port.
Unscientific results so far show a modest speed increase transferring a few large files, nothing like double the FireWire 800 speed hoped for. In any case if it ain't reliable it ain't gettin' used. Hoping for a driver solution in 10.4.7? (Wishful thinking)
No one likes a fussy device, much less one doomed to corrupting directories with that kind of behavior. I'm disappointed with Apple for omitting the FireWire 800 port on the 15 inch model and leaving us with this cheesy "solution".
I am not a big fan of dongles, or things like Express cards which are just asking for trouble by introducing intermediary third party connectivity issues exactly like these...
Oh yeh, and the little metal door on the Express Card slot tends to hang open and not snap closed- just to add insult to the whole process.

Well, after two days of use I have a bit of data regarding the NitroAV (and Apple's implementation of ExpressCard/34).
First some general observations: like bigwheel, there are a few too many rough edges to be fully pleased. After inserting the card, a menu bar icon appears next to the Airport icon. On mouse over, the drop down shows "Unknown Vendor" and "Firewire Controller" are greyed out, while the 3rd "Power off Card" is selectable but does NOT power down the card. Looks like I have to shut down the MBP, then eject the Nitro card.
I also can confirm intermittent unmounting and remounting. My latest experiment is to leave the drive mounted and then have it wake up after sleep. So far it's worked once, but will post if it continues to find my FW 800 drive over time.
One major design flaw of the ExpressCard implementation - to engage the card you push in until it clicks, while to disengage the card you merely push in a second time. But how are you supposed to ATTACH FW800 cables?? I find I have to try to hold the ExpressCard firmly so it doesn't go in while fumbling with the FW800 connector. WAY too fussy...
OK, here's some actual test data, involving transfers of 1,000 MB of files (147 Canon RAW files, approx 7 MB each).
I used three hard drives for various transfers -
1. Internal stock 100 GB - 5400 rpm (TOSHIBA MK1032GSX)
2. FW 800 / 400 500 GB - 7200 rpm (Seagate 3500841A in OWC Mercury Elite case)
3. FW 800 / 400 250 GB - La Cie 7200 rpm drive
All test are transfer of 1 GB of files from HD to HD-
Test 1: Internal to FW 400 - 68 seconds
Test 2: Internal to FW 800 - 65 seconds
Test 3: MBP built in FW 400 daisy-chained - 54 seconds
Test 4: Nitro FW 800 daisy chained - 43 seconds
Test 5: Nitro FW 800 port A to Nitro FW 800 port B - 43 seconds
Test 6: MBP built in FW 400 to Nitro FW 800 - 35 seconds
So it looks like there is some speed increase, but I was surprised that mixing the FW 400 and FW 800 ports gave the fastest transfer speeds! The Nitro card is dependent on Apple's implementation of buses, and this seems to be the winning combo. Not that intuitive that shifting one of the FW 800 devices down to FW 400 will speed things up, but that's what my simple test seemed to imply.
I didn't test read times only, but it would seem that these should speed up (and hopefully speed up my primary application of Aperture).
MBP 2.0, 2GB Mac OS X (10.4.6)

Satellite P300-220 (PSPCCE) and express card with firewire

I have problems with a shared IRQ between firewire (IEEE1394) connector and ati radeon 4600 mobility.(the IRQ used by both device is the 16)
This sharing make my firestudio presonus (sound card external via firewire) problems while reading music on my DAO.
I would like to buy an express card to solve this problem but i must be sure than it will not be the same IRQ (16) than the other firewire connection.
If you are using such a card please verify wich IRQ is used when it's connected on the laptop.
You can see it with the device manager.
Thanks a lot.
toskidus

Hi
The Windows OS controls and assigns automaticity all recourses to all controllers!
In my case the SD host controller and the graphic card shares the same IRQ 16 and there is NO conflict.
So I doubt that your issue is related to the same IRQ which is uses by graphic card and firewire.
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USB to Express Card adapter/Express Card to Firewire

Macbook Air October 2010.
Comes with two USB 2.0 ports
Can I do the following?
- Connect USB to Express Card adapter
- Connect the Express Card port to a Firewire adapter
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Also... as they went through the trouble to specifically indicate the compatible cards, I would imagine there are known incompatibilities with other card types. None of the cards they list would have difficulty over USB. Each of these cards already have similar counterparts that are available to connect directly to USB (vs. using an express card). This would seem most useful for people that may already have express cards that they use in other notebooks so they could use them in a machine without an express card slot... otherwise I would imagine people would just get the USB versions of these devices. USB hubs can obviously connect directly to a USB port, memory card readers are also available for connecting directly to a USB port. RS232 is pretty dated and USB can easily handle RS 232 throughput. I'm not exactly sure what a printer card is... but printers generally connect via USB (or parallel in older machines)... again... very easy for USB to handle. In order for it to work with firewire, they would have to have a hardware translator built into it. I'm sure they would list firewire if it was an option.

Firewire Solution? USB To Express Card Adapter Cable + Firewire Expresscard

Has anyone tried this as a possible solution for getting firewire on their macbook 13.3 unibody? In theory it would seem that you could use this USB To Express Card Adapter Cable and plug in a firewire expesscard. Anyone tried it?
http://usb.brando.com.hk/mini-usb-to-express-card-adapter-cable_p00783c042d015.h tml

Also... as they went through the trouble to specifically indicate the compatible cards, I would imagine there are known incompatibilities with other card types. None of the cards they list would have difficulty over USB. Each of these cards already have similar counterparts that are available to connect directly to USB (vs. using an express card). This would seem most useful for people that may already have express cards that they use in other notebooks so they could use them in a machine without an express card slot... otherwise I would imagine people would just get the USB versions of these devices. USB hubs can obviously connect directly to a USB port, memory card readers are also available for connecting directly to a USB port. RS232 is pretty dated and USB can easily handle RS 232 throughput. I'm not exactly sure what a printer card is... but printers generally connect via USB (or parallel in older machines)... again... very easy for USB to handle. In order for it to work with firewire, they would have to have a hardware translator built into it. I'm sure they would list firewire if it was an option.

Hi. I have a Macbook Pro Model 5,5 with one 800 firewire port. I need to create two firewire 800 ports but only have an SD card slot (this is for video interface with 2 cameras). Is this possible or do I have to have an express card slot in order to do

Hi. I have a Macbook Pro Model 5,5 with one 800 firewire port. I need to create two firewire 800 ports but only have an SD card slot (this is for video interface with 2 cameras). Is this possible or do I have to have an express card slot in order to do this?

Hi Jessica,
No, the SD slot will not work, you need an ExpressCard/34 slot.
I do not know if it works with cameras, but with two or more HDs, if the first one has two FW ports, you can "daisy chain" one or more additional HDs from it.

Employee at the Genuis Bar told me to get pci-express firewire 800 card

told me any card would work in my new.......well it WAS new till they announced upgrade, 2x3ghz quadcore xeon.
I want to add another firewire 800 bus since I have the AJAHD hooked to the existing bus.
So I went to Fry's and got the "PCI-express firewire 800/1394b controller card 3 ports".
put it into one of the empty slots, rebooted, and got nothing, just some dull chimes, that don't stop.
it fit within my macpro, but it was a lot shorter than the SATA card, that had no problems.
So I guess I need to know exactly what type of firewire 800 card to I have to get.

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don't recall a driver disk for mac, however I rarely if ever use the supplied driver disk for anything anymore 'cause it's almost always out of date. go to mfg site and get drivers etc.
this is the first link I saw googling siig
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I'm sorry if this is semi-redundant with the usb pci express card page already posted, but I was wondering if anyone knew if either of these would work on the Mac Pro:
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If so, does anyone have any experience with either or know which is better? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance!
Mac Pro

I checked OWC and they are saying Aaxeon for any PCIe Mac (dual core, quad, and Mac Pro). SIIG is probably, as usual, just reselling and putting their name on someone else's (and probably someone else's firmware, too).
I don't like the "20MB/sec writes based on manuf's tests" part though. But I probably will pick one up nonetheless.

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