Berkeley DB Licence

Apologies if this is not quite the right forum for this post.
I'm looking for a little clarification on the BDB licence.
As I understand it is a dual licence.
Where I am a little unclear is with regards to re-distribution.
If we develop an application that makes use of bdb and sell that app to a client I understand our choices to be as follows:
1. If we sell & distribute our app as closed source, we must purchase a bdb licence
2. If we sell & distribute our app to the client, as open source, reproducing the original bdb licence, we do not need to purchase a licence.
Is this understanding correct so far?
I am further unclear about is the following:
Assuming we use route 2 above and we sell the app to a client and include with it the full source code for our application:
- Are we obliged to make the application source code available to the wider community, or do we only need make it available to those people to whom we sell/distribute it?
(Of course they would then be free to redistribute it themselves, but that is another question)

Hello, I'm a product manager in the BDB group and I deal with a lot of questions about the license. I'm not a lawyer, nor do I represent the legal team at Oracle - you must consult with them and your own legal council for legal opinions. This is just my interpretation of the license.
Given that:
You are correct that the "trigger" is redistribution when using (linking into, combining with) Sleepycat Licensed products, so you're off to a great start. When you redistribute your combined work you can stay within the bounds of the Sleepycat License by open sourcing your application (essentially any OSI license will do, you don't have to choose the Sleepycat License for your application). If your application isn't going to be open source then you need to purchase the right to combine and redistribute it with the Sleepycat Licensed product (in this case Berkeley DB JE from Oracle).
To your questions:
1. yes
2. yes (and you can choose any OSI license you'd like)
So, "YES" you've got it "so far". A+
Your final question is the kicker. Yes, when you take "path 2" (open source your application, redistribute it to a 3rd party), you are obliged to make that source code available to anyone and everyone who wants a copy not just the customer to whom you've sold it. This is part of being open source, "open" as in "available for download". You can read this requirement within the 3rd clause of the license:
* 3. Redistributions in any form must be accompanied by information on
* how to obtain complete source code for the Oracle Berkeley DB
* Java Edition software and any accompanying software that uses the
* Oracle Berkeley DB Java Edition software. The source code must
* either be included in the distribution or be available for no
* more than the cost of distribution plus a nominal fee, and must be
* freely redistributable under reasonable conditions. For an
* executable file, complete source code means the source code for all
* modules it contains. It does not include source code for modules or
* files that typically accompany the major components of the operating
* system on which the executable file runs.
http://download.oracle.com/maven/com/sleepycat/je/license.txt
At the time the license was written (early 1990s) it was harder to deliver software, the web didn't exist, CDROMs and FTP were the rule of thumb. The intent was/is that anyone contacting you (via mail, email, phone or other means - web page access, twitter, etc. today) would be given the opportunity to get a copy of the code free of charge (with a nominal fee for a CDROM and shipping at most). Now, with the web this essentially means that you provide a link somewhere on your site where I can click and get the source code and that you not limit that access. You can certainly record who is downloading, ask questions before enabling a download, even charge a few pennies to cover your redistribution fees (if you choose too and can account for things like that).
Make sense?
Remember, I am not a lawyer. You should contact one who understands open source licensing and have this same conversation.
-greg

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