Beryl - finally works great here on Radeon 9800 with DRI

pacman just updated beryl to:
[jp@darkwood ~]$ pacman -Q |grep beryl
beryl-core-svn 1119-1
beryl-dbus-svn 1090-1
beryl-manager-svn 1117-1
beryl-plugins-svn 1118-1
beryl-settings-svn 1090-1
and finally it works great!
To run it you need to set some options in xorg.conf (look in wiki), then just run:
[jp@darkwood ~]$ beryl-manager
Everything works very, very smooth on my Radeon 9800 with DRI drivers (no fglrx!).
I found only two problems:
- I can't make movies and OpenGL applications transparent
- I can't play movies in gl/gl2 (mplayer), they are flickering

for the first time ever, Beryl+AIGLX works perfect with open source DRI on my radeon 9800..
[alex@alex-erectus ~]$ pacman -Qs beryl
local/beryl-core-svn 1660-1
Window manager with emphasis on visual effects and usability
local/beryl-dbus-svn 1655-1
DBUS plugin for beryl
local/beryl-manager-svn 1660-1
Management dockap for beryl
local/beryl-plugins-svn 1668-1
Plugins for beryl
local/beryl-settings-svn 1668-1
Settings manager for beryl
local/emerald-svn 1666-1
Window decorator for beryl
local/emerald-themes-svn 1632-1
Themes for emerald, the beryl window decorator

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