Best Format for compression

I have some very large QT files, about 16-18GB each that I need to put onto a DVD to play in a DVD player. What is the best format to compress them into so that the movie looks good when played on a regular TV and DVD player? I use Compressor so if you are familiar with that and know a good one to use, let me know. Thanks very much.

If possible, something more specific than "the normal 2 hr compression" would be a better help. Which format specifically.
"Normal" depends on your content and and what you intend to do with it. Most DV compressed files are, on the average, between 12 and 13 GBs per hour depending on content. Thus, an 18 GB file would likely be 80-90 minutes in duration. Add a menu or two and any possible incidentals (previews, photos, slideshows, etc), as well as, not knowing if you are going with AIFF (PCM) or AC3 compressed audio, Figured it better to err on the safe side and suggest a two hour setting unless you know the movie play time is well under 90 minutes. Assumed you would then pick a specific setting to match your specific content (16:9 or 4:3 aspect ratio) and the specific quality desired (best quality/2-pass or the fastest encode/single-pass).
However, if you have Ti Toast, then, as QTKirk indicated, it would likely be the best choice here. Simply drop the edited/standalone (or even a reference) file onto Toast and allow it to automatically encode to fit and create the menu(s)/or auto-start w/o menu as desired.

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