Best ram for MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum Edition?

Ho guys
Im getting a MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum Edition this week but cant decide what memory to use what is the best memory for this board here
are my options.
http://www.stegcomputer.ch/details.asp?prodid=kin-KHX32-1c2
http://www.brack.ch/aspx/default.aspx?ID=17879&mod=artikel
http://www.brack.ch/aspx/default.aspx?ID=17636&mod=artikel
http://www.brack.ch/aspx/default.aspx?ID=17885&mod=artikel
http://www.1000ordi.ch/2500
I will be overclocking.
Any help would be appreciated

Quote from: mehdi on 13-July-05, 22:09:22
XL's is verified by anand to top at 2-3-3 on DDR466 so this would be how much of a oce on a 3700sandy at those timings.
Well the 3700 San Diego har a max multilplier equals 11 and you can use the lower ones also .
So you have more options than one to reach say you set a goal for 2700mhz assuming you have air cooling (2.7ghz seems to be what most aim for without extreme cooling)
HTT reference clock at 233 with memory index 200 times multiplier 11 gives 2530mhz on the cpu and 233mhz/466DDR on the memory .
To maintain same memory speed (around or below 233mhz) with higher cpu frequency you must use a divider by setting max memory speed to 166 etc and use a higher HTT clock reference .
E.g
HTT=270
Multiplier=10
Memory index=166
Gives CPU/12 divider
CPU is then 2.7ghz
Memory speed = cpuspeed/12 = 2700/12 = 225mhz or DDR450 .
Multilplier memory index dividers:
7x with 133 : cpu/11
8x with 133 : cpu/12
9X with 133 : cpu/14
10x with 133 : cpu/15
11x with 133 : cpu/17
7x with 166 : cpu/9
8x with 166 : cpu/10
9X with 166 : cpu/11
10x with 166 : cpu/12
11x with 166 : cpu/13
7x with 183 : cpu/8
8x with 183 : cpu/9
9X with 183 : cpu/10
10x with 183 : cpu/11
11x with 183 : cpu/13
7x with 200 : cpu/7
8x with 200 : cpu/8
9X with 200 : cpu/9
10x with 200 : cpu/10
11x with 200 : cpu/11
( with 200 you will se the divider is the same as multiplier , thats why some calls this 1:1 )
There are also some tables for the dividers made by orcar wu over at extremesystems in this thread:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=41595&highlight=a64+divider+table]
Using this calculation you can figure out your ram frequency before trying it in the bios .
E.g use 183 mem index/divider with cpu multiplier 10x with 2.7ghz as the target .
10 x 270 = 2700
memory will run at
2700/11 = ~ 245mhz or DDR490

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I'm a proudly owner of a MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum that in one year gave me no problem until yesterday morning.
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Quote from: alberto_melita on 20-August-05, 20:14:56
Hi thanks for the answers.
I do have a D-Bracket, but my problem is not that the system does not boot or does not post... my system DOES NOT POWER ON (!!!!), so d-bracket is useless!
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