Best way to use BOTH iPhoto and Aperture?

I have been using iPhoto for 2 years and Aperture for one day! I'd like to continue using iPhoto for snapshots (where i can do minimal editing, tagging etc) but use Aperture when I need more robust management (editing hundreds of vacation photos and creating multi media slideshows).
What is the best way to do this?
Do I import everything into iPhoto and then import selected files / folders again into Aperture - which would mean 2 copies on my hard drive of anything I import into Aperture. I rather not use that much hard drive space if there is a better option.
Thanks for any advice.

You might want to take a look at this thread which address many of the same issues you're asking about here. In it I described how I made the switch from iPhoto to Aperture. It may be of some use to you.
Having bought Aperture, does iPhoto still have its uses?
regards

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Using both iPhoto and Aperture workflow help

I am using both aperture 3 and iPhoto 9 to edit and keep track of images
I imported images to iPhoto the have Aperture import the iPhoto library this way I have i library..I know if something happens to it I am screwed
1) I know that Aperture is non destructive, is iPhoto?
2) will changes ( like GPS location) in aperture be applied to iPhoto images
3) looking to see if I can make changes made in one program appear in the other
4) or it it better to import the images in from my external drive (how they were before iPhoto), and have a separate library for each program

Here's the best advice for using both iPhoto and Aperture:
Pick one horse and ride it. They both do the same job. If you're shooting Raw or high volumes of Jpeg, then definitely go with Aperture. If you're doing family snaps with a point and shoot stick with iPhoto. Using both adds unnecessary complexity to everything, and with complexity comes the risk of error and data loss.
1) I know that Aperture is non destructive, is iPhoto?
Yes. In a wholly different way, mind you, but yes. WHen you edit an image in iPhoto it creates a new file called the Modified Version. You can always revert to the Original photo. If you edit only with iPhoto then you can also avoid generational loss.
2) will changes ( like GPS location) in aperture be applied to iPhoto images
No.
3) looking to see if I can make changes made in one program appear in the other
You can't.
4) or it it better to import the images in from my external drive (how they were before iPhoto), and have a separate library for each program
It makes no sense to use both programs.
Aperture and iPhoto are entirely different applications that work in very different ways.
The only communication between the two is as follows:
Aperture is able to parse the iPhoto Library to allow it to import the contents while stacking the Originals and Modified versions, preserving metadata and so forth.
Aperture can share its Previews with the iLife apps, including iPhoto.
That's it.
So, specifically, what interaction there is between the two is designed to facilitate migration from iPhoto to the more powerful app. After that, iPhoto has exactly the same relationship to the Aperture Library as, say, Pages or iMovie.
iPhoto has no knowledge of, and knows nothing of how the Aperture Library works. It cannot read the Aperture library.
What are you hoping to achieve by running both?
Regards
TD

Use both iPhoto and Aperture with one library-best practice?

I'd like to use both iPhoto and Aperture, but have both programs use/update just one photo library. I have the latest versions of both programs, but was wondering if the optimum approach would be to:
a)point Aperture to the existing iPhoto library and use that as the library for both programs
or
b)import the entire iPhoto library into a new Aperture library, delete the iPhoto library, and point iPhoto to use the Aperture library.
I should point out that up to now I've been using iPhoto exclusively, and have close to 20K photos in the iPhoto library, tagged with Faces, organized into various albums, etc; if that makes a difference...
Appreciate any advice!
Thanks,
Dave

Thanks Frank! I'll try it that way.
Appreciate the help!

Can I use both iPhoto and Aperture on the same library?

I like some of the features of iPhoto (like faces and places) but prefer to work in Aperture for its rich tool content. Is there any way I can use both iPhoto and Aperture on the same library? Or, import images from Aperture into iPhoto?
Thanks much!
John

I think you may have answered a question I have with the above, but to be sure here is what I would like to do. I currently have iPhoto09 with about 50,000 pictures in it, which seems too much for it to manage. I would like to use Aperture, which I understand is better for managing a large number of photos, but still have iPhoto available to make slide shows, etc. for our AppleTV. Would the process you described above work for that?
Thank you

Does anyone use both iPhoto and Aperture

I just got an mac book pro and I am trying to decide what to do with my iPhoto library that is on my old G4 eMac. I'm wondering if the best (and safest) plan would be to transfer that library to the new machine, bring it into iPhoto and then import the entire library into Aperture.
On second thought I wondered if it would be a good idea to leave everything in iPhoto and just open images in Aperture only when I want the extra editing tools... using Aperture for keeping all the "prime" photos and iPhoto for snap shots and iPhone pictures.
And... is it even possible to import the library from another machine directly into Aperture?
Thanks in advance,
bd

Pick one and stick with it. They don't actually integrate very much.
Aperture and iPhoto are entirely different applications that work in very different ways.
The only communication between the two is as follows:
Aperture is able to parse the iPhoto Library to allow it to import the contents while stacking the Originals and Modified versions, preserving metadata and so forth.
Aperture can share its Previews with the iLife apps, including iPhoto.
That's it.
So, specifically, what interaction there is between the two is designed to facilitate migration from iPhoto to the more powerful app. After that, iPhoto has exactly the same relationship to the Aperture Library as, say, Pages or iMovie.
iPhoto has no knowledge of, and knows nothing of how the Aperture Library works. It cannot read the Aperture library.
So if you decide to try this:
using Aperture for keeping all the "prime" photos and iPhoto for snap shots and iPhone pictures.
You'll end up using two apps to manage two different sets of photos, with twice the complications. Aperture is not an "external editor" and can't be used as such.
Think: Writing your novel in Word and TextEdit at the same time. "I'll write this chapter in Word, this paragraph in TE and then back to word..."
What of you wanted to sync your Photos back to your Phone? Which library will you use? You can't use both.
And... is it even possible to import the library from another machine directly into Aperture?
The routine would be to move the Library to the new machine and them process it into Aperture. Then trash the unwanted iPhoto Library.
Regards
TD

Is there a way to sync both iPhoto and Aperture albums?

I see that there is a drop down menu that will allow me to select either iPhoto or Aperture to sync with. My question is it possible to sync from both?
I use Aperture with my DSLR and iPhoto for my point-and-shoot.

Yeah I'm in the same boat here. I just got a MacBook Pro yesterday, switching from Windows, and I was shocked to find that syncing photos from my new computer onto my iPhone is aparently a much bigger pain in the rear than it ever was with Windows.
This is not correct - you just don't know what is available to you.
iPhoto has a single library where all photos are stored just as with iTunes and music/video and with the Address Book application for contact information. iPhoto 08 includes Events along with creating albums.
You don't need to split events to create an album or albums. All Photos remain in the iPhoto's library and any photos placed in events or albums includes a pointer to the original photos available in the main library and are not duplicated. A photo cannot be available in an Event or an Album unless it is available in main iPhoto library. You can have the same photo in multiple events or albums just as you can have the same song in multiple iTunes Playlists and the same contact in multiple Groups with the Address Book.
The sync option for Events is all or the 1,3,5,10 or 20 most recent but you can select individual albums to be transferred to the iPhone.
This will provide for viewing the photos available in an album only when selecting the album on the iPhone or you can view all photos available in all albums by selecting the Photo Library on the iPhone.

How do I rebuild a common library used by both iPhoto and Aperture?

I'm using a common library for both iPhoto and Aperture—latest versions of each and Mavericks. I'm finding photos that are in the library that seem to have fallen out of their events or projects. When I open those events or projects, the folders are empty, however the photos are still in the database. How do I rebuild this library so as to recover my original organization?

it will not matter, if you rebuild in iPhoto or Aperture.
You rebuild the library by launching either Aperture or iPhoto while holding down the key combination⌥⌘ (option-command) and double-clicking the Aperture or iPhoto icon. Keep holding down the keys, until you are seeing the Library First Aid panel. Select to Rebuild the database.
Back up your library before rebuilding.
When I open those events or projects, the folders are empty, however the photos are still in the database. How do I rebuild this library so as to recover my original organization?
Where are you seeing the photos, that are missing from the projects, but are still in the database?
Rebuilding will collect photos, that have lost the connection to the edited versions, and show them in a "Recovered Project". It will not restore them to the original projects, if it is not clear, what where the originals belong to.
Have you checked, if you have filters set, that are hiding the photos? Check the search fields in the browser and the Info panel, if they are cleared and set to "Show All".

How do I add photos to photo stream from BOTH iPhoto and Aperture

I use Photostream for displaying photos I have taken on my DSLR on my iPad. I take the photos, download them into iPhoto and then add them to Photostream. They then appear on my iPad for display to friends and family. But some of my photos are now being manipulated in Aperture. I'd like to display these in the same Photostream, but so far, because I have to choose either the iPhoto libray or the Aperture library - but not both - for the photostream, the only way I can do this is to export the photos from Aperture into iPhoto (which doubles up my photo files). Is there a simpler way to do this?

OK. But let's say you are in iPhoto and you switch libraries so that you are now looking at your Aperture library. In order to add photos to your photostream you have to activate iCoud/photostream again in your iPhoto preferences for the new library. Then you get a message up which says: "iCloud Photos for [my iCloud email address] is being used with another library named "iPhoto Library". Switching iCoud Photos to this library will turn it off in iPhoto library."
In other words this does not solve my problem of how to have one photostream which contains photos from BOTH iPhoto and Aperture.
Is it perhaps possible to merge the iPhoto and Aperture libraries so that you only have one library for both applications?

Both iPhoto and Aperture hanging up immediately on launch

Both iPhoto and Aperture hanging up immediately on launch..
Please help in resolving the issues

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Using both Picasa and Aperture

I am looking for help so I can use both Picasa and Aperture on the same Mac. I am using Picasa on my Mac and have all my photo and video files stored on a Time Capsule under a folder called "Pictures." I set Picasa to "watch" these folders for new files and changes.
I have installed a trial version of Aperture and would like to see if I can use both it and Picasa on the same machine. I would like to keep my photos on the Time Capsule (I have about 300 gb of files, so I don't want to put them on my 500gb drive on the Mac), so I created a Aperture Library on the Time Capsule. As a test, I imported one subfolder (about 20 files) from the Pictures folder and noticed that Aperture made copies of each of these files. Is there a way to set things up so that I keep a single copy of each file without making the duplicates? Thanks.

Two things you should keep in mind:
The Aperture Library itself should not be located on a network volume (e.g. Time Capsule), see:
Aperture: Use locally mounted Mac OS X Extended volumes for your Aperture library: http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3252
You can however store the master image files on a network volume, e.g. in your Pictures Folder on TIme Capsule.
In the import panel of Aperture it is possible to specify, that the imported image files should be left in their current location:
This way you could share the master image files (not the edited versions) with Picasa, provided you do not alter the shared files in any way.
But frankly, I do not see any reason to do this - Picasa would be very much redundant - to keep both programs synched propery will give you more trouble than benefits. If you only want to use the Picasa web albums, then you can do that by exporting or using the Picasa plug-in from Aperture.
Perhaps you may care to elaborate a little on what exactly you want to achieve by using both programs simultaniously.
Regards
Léonie

I have on my MacBook both iPhoto and Aperture and want to purchase iPhoto for iPad. If I do so, will I be able to see all my MacBook iPhoto progress (places, faces, events, etc) on the iPad app ? Via icloud or some other feature tht work like PhotoStream?

I have on my MacBook both iPhoto and Aperture and want to purchase iPhoto for iPad. If I do so, will I be able to see all my MacBook iPhoto progress (places, faces, events, etc) on the iPad app ? Via icloud or some other feature tht work like PhotoStream?

If I do so, will I be able to see all my MacBook iPhoto progress (places, faces, events, etc) on the iPad app ?
just some notes in addition to Ralphs answer: Your iPad is very useful to browse and show off your photos, i.e. the Retina iPad. You can sync to the iPad via iTunes or using the Photo Stream or a shared Photo Stream. But if you can browse and store all your photos on the iPad, will depend on the available storage on your iPad. Using iTunes you can sync events, albums, faces stacks, places stacks to your iPad. Not many metadata tags will transfer however.
See the iPhoto help on what iPhoto can actually do:
iPhoto Help: What is iPhoto? http://help.apple.com/iphoto/ipad/1.1/#blnkd2e20226
Regards
Léonie

What is the best way to back up iPhoto and create disc space

what is the best way to back up iPhoto and then remove the iphoto folder from the mac book and onto the external apple time capsule

Two different questions
the best qway to backup is to use TimeMachine or other automatic backjup program
However this does not allow you to reduce space since a backup need to be a copy of your existing library and as soond as you changge the library you no longer have a backup and sooner or later the photos will be gone form the bakcujp too
You need to run the iPhoto library on an external drive or had a complete library on and external drive and a smaller library on yoru internal drive using iPhoto Library Manager - http://www.fatcatsoftware.com/iplm/ - to move photos between the two libraries
Moving the iPhoto library is safe and simple - quit iPhoto and drag the iPhoto library intact as a single entity to the external drive - depress the option key and launch iPhoto using the "select library" option to point to the new location on the external drive - fully test it and then trash the old library on the internal drive (test one more time prior to emptying the trash)
And be sure that the External drive is formatted Mac OS extended (journaled) (iPhoto does not work with drives with other formats) and that it is always available prior to launching iPhoto
And backup soon and often - having your iPhoto library on an external drive is not a backup and if you are using Time Machine you need to check and be sure that TM is backing up your external drive
LN

HT204414 How to import both iPhoto and Aperture library to iCloud Photo Library (Photos app)

Hi all,
Based on the article here (Designate a System Photo Library in Photos - Apple Support) has anyone tried to bring both an iPhoto and Aperture library into iCloud Photo Library so that both libraries are available as one in iCloud and form the one Photos app library rather than being seen as separate libraries. I don't want the two separated as I have 200GB's of space in iCloud which is plenty to hold the two's collective space of about 40GB's.
It seems as though the procedure is pretty simple.
First of all set one of your libraries as the System Photo Library, this will happen naturally with setting up Photos app for the first time. I chose iPhoto as the original library.
Let this library upload all it's photo's to iCloud over a few minutes, hours, days etc.
When finished, enter your other library by closing Photos app and reopening while holding down the Option key (usually Alt). In this case I now opened the Aperture library that it had found.
Under Preferences > iCloud set this library as the System Photo Library and in turn it will have the ability to upload to iCloud.
When it's finished I suppose you will have both iPhoto AND Aperture pictures in the one iCloud Photo Library.
At least I hope the above makes sense.
Anybody already tried this with good / bad results, let us know here.

found it here - 'If you designate a new library as the System Photo Library and then turn on iCloud Photo Library, the photos and videos in the new library will merge with those already in your iCloud Photo Library. If you want to keep the contents of your photo libraries separate, don’t turn on iCloud Photo Library for more than one library in Photos.'
That bit seems clear. You can merge photos from different libraries by making them 'designated' first .
BUT this means that Photos app only shows you library A , or library B, depending on which one you have opened , but Icloud library contains photos from Both library A and library B .
is this correct ?
and if so, does it not get a but confusing ?!?

Is it possible to keep both iPhoto and Aperture on the same Mac

I would like to use both IPhoto (for day by day pictures) and Aperture (for pictures made with my SLR in Raw format).
Is anybody able to advice me about this opportunity?

You can keep both Applications (iPhoto and Aperture) on the same computer and separate libraries for iPhoto and Aperture; images from both libraries will/should be available in other Applications from the Media Browser. In the long run, after you get accustomed to working Aperture, you will find it more convenient to migrate all your images to Aperture. Aperture has the more efficient storage strategy, you need less disk space to store multiple versions of the same image in Aperture than in iPhoto, and Aperture is the more versatile tool.
It is easy to migrate iPhoto libraries to Aperture, but that is a one way road, if you want to export back to iPhoto, you can export your images, but not all of your library structure.

Add both iPhoto and Aperture libraries

Can I upload both my iPhoto and Aperture libraries to Photos (after the initial install). I found out after installation that I could have used the option key to import multiple libraries. But after initial install, I cannot seem to add a library, just individual photos.

Photos cannot merge libraries. It just can switch between libraries, when you hold down the options key while launching Photos.
You could use Aperture to merge your iPhoto Library into the Aperture Library (see Aperture 3.3: How to use Aperture to merge iPhoto libraries).
This would require compatible Aperture and iPhoto versions.
After merging both libraries with Aperture launch Photos with the alt/options key held down and select the merged library. Photos will create an upgraded copy of the library. Now you can delete the previous Photos library and enable the new library as Photos System Library in the Photos Preferences > General.
Are you using iCloud Photo Library with Photos? With enough storage you could try to merge the libraries in iCloud, but uploading from several libraries will not preserve the faces.

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