Beta 2: Edit in PhotoShop as PSD?

In the preferences setting, I have the external editor for CS3 set up to use PSD as the file type, but when I press "Save" in PhotoShop it changes the file type to TIF.
In addition, whereas version 1 of LightRoom used to stack the original and PS edited versions, this new beta does not. Is that a new "feature", an oversight, or operator error? The edited version ends up nowhere near the original version, making them hard to compare.

This would be best asked in the LR2.0 forum:
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/categories.cfm?forumid=72&catid=678&entercat= y
(See **-Lightroom 2.0 Beta - Link to Adobe Labs Forum-** the 6th post in this forum).

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Lightroom doesn't stack photo with original back to lightroom when finished editing in photoshop

Hi, hope someone can help.
My lightroom isn't broken, just an annoying thing is happening.
When I used to edit in photoshop, I would finish, photoshop would ask if I wanted to save changes, I would, then when I went back to lightroom the edited photo was right there next to the original raw (a tiff).
Now it doesn't show in lightroom.
I can get the tiff into lightroom by going to import, finding in the folder where the original raw file is and importing.
I have checked under settings, and the 'stack with original' is checked.
Just wondered if I had messed a setting somewhere.
Thanks for you help
Paul

Thanks for your help 007.
I got it working, I reinstalled lightroom and it was still the same, no re-imports of edited photo's.
So here's what I did. I changed the file type when editing in photoshop to PSD (in preferences), and that worked. So I changed it back to TIFF and that works now too.
Cheers
Paul

New Edit in Photoshop option: copy as psd withouth adjustments

This feature would be a 4th option in the "edit in photoshop" context menu. It creates a photoshop file with the unmodified image data (before any adjustments in lightroom) but as a psd file in 16 bit depth and with the specified colourspace (usually prophoto). The user edits the image in photoshop and saves it. Lightroom copies the adjustments from the source photo and pastes them, as adjustable lightroom adjustments, onto this edited psd file.
This workflow makes sense mostly for jpegs (as raw files always have to be developed in some form when you open them in photoshop). I often need to retouch a couple of fotos from a large collection. When I edit them with lightroom adjustments, I loose the possibility to easily change the colour tone etc in lightroom (of course I can make changes in lightroom but the sliders are reset to 0 because lightroom treats this as an entirely new image). It would be better if I could edit the original image data in photoshop and have lightroom apply the adjustments as metadata, not burn them into the psd file before opening. From an image quality point of view it is often better to do all compositions, retouching etc on the original data, then colour grade them later so that the changes "blend in better" (this is the default way to do it in motion picture film compositing). I would appreciate it if lightroom would offer me this workflow option.

Jeff,
I think you misunderstood the use-case I am talking about. I perfectly understand that this doesn't make sense for raw pictures. It does, however make a great deal of sense for jpegs.
I am not asking photoshop to become a parametric editor or Lightroom to become a pixel editor. What I want is for lightroom to do what it does best (non destructive editing) and photoshop what it does best (powerfull destructive editing) but without having to "chain" these steps together in a given ordern (develop jpeg in lightroom -> send it to photoshop, all non-destructive edits are burned into the new psd file -> edit in in photoshop -> send it back to lightroom, the non-destructive edits of lightrooms are burned into the pixels and cannot be changed anymore (if I had made the image warmer I don't see this in lightroom anymore because the sliders are reset to 0).
What I propose is merely for lightroom to be able to send unmodified jpegs to photoshop and apply the non-destructive edits to the copy. This way, I can do my compositing / editing in photoshop on the original pixels, then keep playing around with the sliders in lightroom.
This is a bit hard to explain just with text, I hope I could make my point clear. Also, the current option of "Edit a copy, without lightroom adjustments" is nice, but only halfway there for two reasons: First, it doens'nt automatically copy the non-destructive edits made to the original image to the new copy, and second, for jpegs, in this case I want a psd file to be created not a jpeg as is currently the chase. Why? Because I will be working with layers in my edit and if I want to be able to save the file and have lightroom notice it. However, if the file in question is a jpeg, I can't save my composite to this file format without loosing my layers, so I have to change the fil format to psd but that changes the filename that lightroom was keeping track of so now I have to rescan the folder in lightroom which is quite annoying form a workflow point of view.
Please let me know if I can explain anything in better detail. I really do think that for a jpeg based workflow this option would make a great deal of sense.

Problem with filters not finding an image in LR 4.0 after being edited in Photoshop CS6 beta

I am running Lightroom 4.0 on a Win7 Professional 64-bit system. I have come up with a strange problem I can describe but don't know how it can more generally be duplicated, unless this is a Photoshop CS6 beta bug.
I am looking through in Library module at a shoot. When I filter by a keyword that some of the pictures have, a recently edited image does not show up. Here is what I mean; let X=IMG_6260:
1) For X.CR2, edit in Photoshop CS5. All works well - X-ed.tif gets created and added to my LR previous import set.
2) Clicking on X-ed.tif, edit in Photoshop CS6 beta. All seems fine - X-ed-2.tif gets created and added to my LR previous import set.
3) The keywords on all three images - the original and the two edits - are the same. I can confirm that by, in grid view, selecting these three and noting no asterisks in the composite keyword view. One of the keywords is the person's name - let's say it is "Sara".
4) Now, when I click in the keyword list on "Sara", all images in this most recently imported set show up with her *except* X-ed-2.tif - the one created by CS6 beta.
Strange! Should this be reported in a CS6 forum? Thanks.

Yep, it returns nothing. Debug output seems to be largely irrelevant except this oddity:
-- Debug: Received Message:
-------------------------- BEGIN NETLINK MESSAGE ---------------------------
[NETLINK HEADER] 16 octets
.nlmsg_len = 36
.type = 2 <ERROR>
.flags = 0 <>
.seq = 1421583995
.port = 1853883468
[ERRORMSG] 20 octets
.error = 0 "Success"
[ORIGINAL MESSAGE] 16 octets
.nlmsg_len = 16
.type = 16 <0x10>
.flags = 5 <REQUEST,ACK>
.seq = 1421583995
.port = 1853883468
--------------------------- END NETLINK MESSAGE ---------------------------
Message type = "error" with a message = "success"? Not sure if this is normal or not

Editing in Photoshop... psd file is huge!

In Lightroom, you can "Edit in Photoshop". After editing and saving the file, a .PSD file is created and is part of the library. Great. But the file size for the .PSD is about 5x as large as the original .DNG. (about 35 megs)
Is this normal? It would be nice to edit the .DNG in PS, and then the edited file is brought back into LR as a .jpg or even .DNG. My workaround is to export the new .psd to a .jpg and then import the .jpg back into the library, and then delete the .psd. That's not a quick or intuitive workflow.
Any advice?
Thanks!
John

Yeah that is completely normal. The DNG RAW file is typically a Bayerrized grid of 12 bit pixels. For example, a 10 MP camera has 5 million green pixels and 2.5 million each of blue and green. Uncompressed and at 12-bit res, that would take about 15 MB uncompressed and about 7.5 MB losslessly compressed. Now if LR's raw converter debayerizes it, which means that all color channels will be interpolated from neighboring pixels at every original pixel location, every pixel will end up as 3 (for each color channel) x8bit (if you use an 8-bit psd), which means 30 MB uncompressed or 15 MB compressed psd, or, in the case of 16-bit per colour channel about 30 MB compressed, precisely as you observe. If you want to send the dng to PS, you right click (or control-click) on the file in the grid view and choose show in Finder/explorer and then drag the file into PS. It will open in camera RAW with all your LR edits in place.

2010 iMac 2.93 i7 27" or 2011 2.8 i7 21.5" - which will suit better long-term? I do a fair amount of audio, video editing and photoshop, but I have a limited budget. What's going to give the best bang-for-buck for the next 3-5 yrs?

I do a fair amount of audio, video editing and photoshop, but I have a limited budget. What's going to give the best bang-for-buck for the next 3-5 yrs? My current machine is a 13" Macbook unibody 2.4 Core 2 Duo w/ 4Gb Ram so it's time to move forward with more power and screen real estate!

Hello, Jeff
I could never edit on a 13" screen. I'm currently using a 17" MBP i7 Early 2011 as a fast replacement to my aged 20" Intel iMac.
Both systems are not that far apart on stats and you will find that processing HD video will rely highly on the read/write to your storage. Myself, I'd be eye balling the 2011 for the Thunderbolt port so HD Video export/compression doesn't take forever! Currently processing a finished HD project for DVD uses at most 20% of my total CPU capacity. The FW800 drive is the big bottleneck! (I know I need at least a RAID to see a real speed boost).
How good your eyes are and your usage style would dictate if the difference in screen size make a difference to you.

Edit in photoshop cs6 from lightroom 4

Hi
I am working between lightroom 4 and photoshop c6 .
I have an issue though . What happens is that i use to be able to send my photo from LR to photoshop .
Do my work , layers and stuff.
Then save
Back in LR i have now an edit.psd .
Which so far is fine .
But if i resend that edit.psd ( using Edit original) to photoshop, do some work, save it .
When i am back in LR it is still the same Edit.psd and doesn t give me the worflow i use to have .
When i use to resend a edit.psd in photoshop worked and save , i use to have a second image called edit-2.psd.
Which was a really good worflow for me so that i remember which photo is which .
I tried to do edit copy when resending to photoshop , but then i m getting a new file named Edit-Edit.psd .
I like this option better because a least i have the 2 files i want . But i would really like to have that second file as edit-2.psd and if i choose to edit a 3rd time i would have edit-3.psd
Can you please please help me here ?
i m going crazy ...
many thks

oops my bad . Will do that now .Thks
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Lightroom 5.2 Error: The file could not be edited because Photoshop CC could not be launched...

When I am using Lightroom 5.2, and I try to edit a file in Adobe Photoshop CC from Lightroom, Photoshop starts up and after 15 to 20 seconds, I receive the following error message: "The file could not be edited because Adobe Photoshop CC could not be launched." If I click "OK" on the error message form, the image finally opens in Photoshop.
I've uninstalled and reinstalled Lightroom 5.2 and Photoshop CC multiple times, but the edit in Photoshop problem won't go away.
Has anyone else experienced this problem? Any suggestions on how to fix this issue?
Thanks,
Mark

I am having the same problem in lightroom 5 on a mac (Mavericks). I'm wondering if it's because I have both Photoshop CS5 and Photoshop CC and somehow they are conflicting, but I don't see how. I clearly have Photoshop CC as the primary external editor.
Last night, after seeing this post, and ekupp's response, I uninstalled Photoshop CC and reinstalled it via the creative cloud and that fixed it, but today it's doing the same thing again. When I choose to edit in photoshop CC, Photoshop CC opens but I still get the error in lightroom. If Photoshop CC is already open, I still get the error. I refuse to keep uninstalling/reinstalling it... I can't lose Photoshop CS5 as I use it for designing (I like the view in mini bridge better), but I like CC for editing.
This is creating a secondary problem for me as I am ending up with a bazillion (OK, maybe 5) psd copies of the raw files that I want to edit. When I get the error, Lightroom proceeds to render the files. I really want to turn that function off because as of now I have to try to click the microscopic "x" for each file as it "prepares to edit" and that's tedious and is creating extra files I don't want.
Last thing, since I'm here and hopeful to get an answer... I have a Mac, as I stated and I like my spaces. However, when the "edit in photoshop" function works spaces continues to force me to the photoshop space. No multitasking allowed as my files are opened. I think this is a lightroom or photoshop quirk, as when I run actions I am able to go to a different space (safari or lightroom) to work as it works for me.

Can't Edit In Photoshop from LR

Hi All
I'm on a Mac using the latest versions of LR, Photoshp CS5, and Camera RAW. Editing 5D and 40D files.
I cannot get RAW files to completely open up in Photoshop using either the COMMAND+E or right click Edit In Photoshop. Upon using either of these key strokes, Photoshop will launch, but the file never opens in Photoshop.
I tried selecting CS5 as my second external editor, and launching with "right Click Edit in" that editor, and Photoshop launches that way, but LR creates a PSD first and stores in my catalogue before moving to PS. I prefer using the main editor as I can edit in Photoshop and choose to save the file.
Ugh. I've tried deleting preference files and that hasn't help. Any ideas?

Does ACR open when you start the process in PS and use File / Open and select the RAW file? File / Open is how Windows would do it, not sure on a Mac, but whatever you'd do in PS on a Mac to open a RAW file, without LR being involved.
In other words, is the issue with PS opening in ACR or PS being called from LR?
Also, if PS is already open w/o any file being edited--not as a result of a bad open from LR, but PS manually started up, does it work right from LR? In other words if the invocation from LR doesn't actually involve starting up PS, but just communicating with the currently open PS does it work better?
You might just try uninstalling and reinstalling LR, again. Or even re-installing PS, although LR is easier to re-install so try that, first.

Incorrect size when photo edited in photoshop

If I am viewing an image at full screen in iPhoto and then open it for editing in Photoshop, The resulting saved image is the wrong size when it uploads to Flickr. Sometimes, it also appears at the wrong size when viewed in iPhoto as well. Generally, rebuilding thumnails corrects the problem. Likewise, images opened from the iPhoto grid view also do not appear incorrectly. Granted, I just named two work-arounds, but neither is very satisfying. Anyone else have a better idea?

Do you have PSE setup this way in iPhoto?
Using Photoshop or Photoshop Elements as Your Editor of Choice in iPhoto.
1 - select Photoshop or Photoshop Elememts as your editor of choice in iPhoto's General Preference Section's under the "Edit photo:" menu.
2 - double click on the thumbnail in iPhoto to open it in Photoshop. When you're finished editing click on the Save button. If you immediately get the JPEG Options window make your selection (Baseline standard seems to be the most compatible jpeg format) and click on the OK button. Your done.
3 - however, if you get the navigation window
that indicates that PS wants to save it as a PS formatted file. You'll need to either select JPEG from the menu and save (top image) or click on the desktop in the Navigation window (bottom image) and save it to the desktop for importing as a new photo.
This method will let iPhoto know that the photo has been editied and will update the thumbnail file to reflect the edit..
NOTE: With Photoshop Elements the Saving File preferences should be configured as shown:
I also suggest the Maximize PSD File Compatabilty be set to Always. In PSE’s General preference pane set the Color Picker to Apple as shown:
Note: to switch between iPhoto and PS or PSE as the editor of choice Control (right)-click on the thumbnail and select either Edit in iPhoto or Edit in External Editor from the contextual menu. If you use iPhoto to edit more than PSE re-select iPhoto in the iPhoto General preference pane. Then iPhoto will be the default editor and you can use the contextual menu to select PSE for your editor when desired.

Editing in Photoshop CS5 and return to LR5 as .jpg

Hello,
I am fairly new to LR, so this may be a stupid question, but here goes....
Occasionally I have a photo that I have made my edits to in LR5 and now want to take into Photoshop CS5 to do a few minor things and I understand how that is done. My issue is that when I save it and it is brought back into LR it is now a .psd (I know that is because I have set it up that way in my LR Preferences). That is great when I want to save detailed layers with edits from photoshop incase I need to go back in and tweak them, however in the instance where the PS edits are so minor and no layers were created, I really don't want the massive file size that comes along with the .psd version. Is it possible to bring it back to LR as a .jpg? If there is a better way to handle this in my workflow please let me know.
Thanks in advance for the help.
Ria

Yes, I understand your concerns with storage space.
I would also keep the CR2 files; I shoot with Nikons and keep my NEFs.
I don't know if converting to DNG is actually such a good idea. They are called a Raw format but the more I read about that the more doubtful I become.
Adobe says that converting to DNG would be good in case the original Raw-format from camera would not be supported any more.
But Nikon and Canon have been around for quite some time - maybe longer than Adobe - and in today's corporate world there is no guarantee for permanent DNG-support either.
So it seems to me that you could stop saving DNGs since you are saving and keeping your CR2s anyway, which I would recommend.
In the past I have also edited many (if not most) of my images in PS, mostly for the reason that the spotting tool in Lr had npt been up to the task.
But that has changed with Lr5. I did some extensive spotting on some images in Lr5 recently, and it is now just as easy - maybe easier - than it is in PS.
As far as tonal and color corrections go I find that Lr is superior to PS. Naturally there is no way around PS if you need layers.
I would suggest that you have a thorough look at your workflow and ask yourself if it is really necessary that you edit in PS "for a couple of minor edits".
So you could possibly avoid amassing huge amounts of PSDs/TIFFs.
A 12-quality JPG is most probably not inferior in quality to a 8-bit TIFF or PSD. But a JPG is always a 8-bit image, whereas the other formats give you the option of saving as 16-bits, and that's what you should do if quality is a concern. You say that you have to create JPGs anyway for printing or web-use.
But that does not mean that you have to save as JPG after editing. I treat JPGs as expendables. After uploading I delete them from my system. In Lr I can always create a JPG on the fly from the original. It makes no sense for me to have JPGs sitting around.
BTW: Read this if you are interested in the question if you should use PSDs or TIFFs:http://www.teddillard.com/2009/03/tiff-vs-psd-schewe-via-luminous.html

Why can´t I sync fotos with their previous version in lightroom after doing editations in Photoshop?

Hi!
- I have a RAW-foto in Lightroom, that I already edited with lightroom tools (Clarity, colour, whitebalance etc.)
- I have to edit some things in Photoshop, so I rightclick and choose "Edit in photoshop) (CTRL+E)
- A version without my lightroom editations openes in photoshop, I do my editations there
- I save the pic in photoshop, and it is imported to my lightroom catalogue as a PSD file, being stacked with the original. - so far so good, now the problem:
- if I select the new and the original version (RAW+PSD file) and try syncing my lightroom editations to the PSD file, the colour changes completely, and there are even some spot removals going through the face of the model, that DO NOT EXIST in the original photo that I´m syncing from!!! WHY!?!?!? I really dont get it..
See the here on my Dropbox for better understanding (for some reason I cannot upload the pics directly here):
Dropbox - adobe help
Thank you for your appreciated help

TThe sync process you're describing is not how it should work. When you edit in Photoshop with Ctrl-E, Lightroom, should pass the raw file plus the XMP data for your edits over to Photoshop. Photoshop uses its Camera Raw engine to render those changes and you should see a background layer that has all your edits included.
the fact that you're not seeing the edits in Photoshop makes me suspicious that you have an older version of Photoshop (with an older Camera Raw). What version of LR and PS are you using? If you're using an older Photoshop, here,s what to do:
Normally, you'd see a warning dialog box that would give you the option to "Render in Lightrom," but you may have turned this off. To reset, go to Edit > Preferences > General, and choose the button to "Reset all Warning Dialogs."
Once you do that, opening in an older version of Photoshop will trigger a warning that will allow you the choice to "open anyway," or "render in Lightroom." You should choose to render in Lightroom.
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Edit in Photoshop doesn't load a picture

Hello,
Last night I was able to edit my photos in PS5 from LR3 by using the Edit in Photoshop menu item. Nothing that I know of has changed, other then I've finished importing my entire photo library, I can't anymore. When I select 'Edit in Photoshop" it loads PS5 but it doesn't load the picture I've selected for editing. Is there a way I can get some logging/debug info out of PS5 or (even better) a known fix for this issue? I'm up to date with all my software (LR3, PS5, OS X 10.6.3).

I posted a reply a week or so ago here about this. In short, you need to delete the PS preferences file and let PS recreate it. You will lose any custom settings in PS that you have but you can always edit the preferences file and add it back or just redo it from within PS.
From http://www.gballard.net/psd/troubleshootpurgepsd.html
Keyboard shortcuts to reset Photoshop ImageReady preferences (though I prefer to manually purge preferences to rule out preferences when troubleshooting Photohop crashing, freezing, locking up, Unexpectedly Quits):
• To delete and re-create the preferences files, start Photoshop or ImageReady and, as it starts, hold down Control+Alt+Shift (Windows) or Command+Option+Shift (Mac OS), and then click Yes to the prompt "Delete the Adobe Photoshop Settings file?" or "Delete the Adobe ImageReady Settings file?" SOURCE: Adobe "techdocs/312917.html."
If corrupted files are associated with opening or saving Photoshop files from over across a network disks:
• Adobe Tech Document: Photoshop, networks, and removable media (7.x and CS2):
http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/322391.html
• In essence: Copy the file from the server to your local workstation disk, Open the file from your local disk, Save the file to your local disk, Copy the closed file back to the server — never Open or Save Photoshop files across a network.

"Edit In" Photoshop CC not working for RAW or DNG files after applying LR 5.3 and Camera Raw 8.3

I just applied the Lightroom 5.3 and Camera Raw 8.3 updates and now am no longer able to open RAW or DNG files into Photoshop CC. When I select a file and choose "Edit In" Photoshop, photoshop will launch, then nothing will happen. After 2 to 5 minutes, an error will popup in Lightroom saying "The file could not be edited because Adobe Photoshop CC could not be launched." An error I've never seen before. When I click "Ok", Lightroom will show that it's "preparing a file for editing" in the upper left, it will create and save a psd to disk and in the catalog (another new behavior), then it will open in photoshop. All other file types (jpgs, tiff, psd) seem to work/open fine between applications. No difference if I open photoshop prior to selecting "Edit In". Selecting "Edit In" other applications, like Viveza, work fine.
I tried first deleting preference files in both applications. No luck. Ditto for plugins. Notta. Eventually I completely uninstalled and fresh installed Photoshop, Lightroom, and Bridge from the cloud. Same deal...can't open raw/dng files into Photoshop.
I'm at a complete loss, dead in the water, with a mountain of editing work piling on top of me. Kicking myself for applying the upgrades, which I had been delaying for some time to avoid just such a cluster%#$. Ugh.
I'm on a PC running Windows 7 64bit.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

In the normal situation, LR needs to see a PS installed for it to detect the Edit In PS option is possible, so if you uninstall both, then install PS, first, then LR. Of course with this release there may be some hiccup that requires installing either one or the other, again, but if you've uninstalled both and are reinstalling both, then install PS, first.

Images edited in Photoshop not showing up correctly in Lightroom after saving

Hi,
I recvently got Adobe cloud and upgraded from Lightroom 3 to 4. Since the upgrade I have been having issues with Lightroom not correctly displaying images edited in Photoshop. Instead of the photoshop image it creates a new jpeg and displays that in the library. the PSD does not get loaded into the library.
I am taking a jpeg from my library and shoosing the edit in Photoshop function. I am selecting edit a copy, but have tried it with original and with edit a copy with lightroom adjustments as well with the same results.
In Photoshop I am duplicating the base layer, upscaling the image, running some filters, adding dsome adjustment layers.
I save the image in Photoshop format back to the original folder where the initial jpeg was in the Lightroom library. I save it with maximize compatibility on.
When I go back to Lightroom, the catalog displays two files, the initial jpeg and an identical copy to it, NOT the new photoshop file with alterations. If I go to the folder the images are housed in in Finder using the show in Finder command both images link to the same original jpeg. The photoshop edited file is there in the folder but does not show up in Lightroom unless I drag and drop it.
I have turned off all filters and made sure the sort is sorting by name. The image does not automatically show up in Lightroom after editing. Any suggestions?
Thanks for any help!
PS. I did search the topic and there are threads from 2007 and lightroom 2 but their solution was to start from scratch essentially and I have a carefully tagged, starred, and labeled catalog of 30,000+ images and really don't want to do that

Images that are edited in Photoshop will be displayed automatically in Lr only when the image-file saved in Photoshop is the same as the one opened from Lr.
You say you open a JPG from Lr, then edit it in PS by - among other things - adding some layers. Layers are not supported in the JPG-format so you have to either save it as a psd or as a jpg-copy.
In either case this is not the same image file as the one opened in Lr, so it will have to be imported into Lr to show up. If you would flatten your image after editing in PS and then do a <save> to your JPG - not a <save as> - it will show up in Lr.
PS: the only exception is when you open a Raw image from Lr in PS and you save it in PS in the file format specified in Lr for external editing. The saved file will automatically show in LR.
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