Beta SP to DVCAM tape transfer - time code

hello all,
I work for a small media training organisation and we've had a production job come in.
Some BETA Sp tapes from a feature will need to be transferred to DVCAM for what I assume is an offline edit. We have a BETA deck and I normally dub to DVCAM using S-Video and Phono Cables.
My question is whether the time code will be carried via the S-Video cable or whether I need an independent BNC cable to carry it.
I did some tests today and the DSR-45 deck seemed to take the time code via the S lead. I set up a BNC cable but couldn't verify whether it made any difference. I imported the captured footage into Canopus Edius and the time code seemed fine but I am worried that the editor may not find it using their as yet unspecified edit software.
Sorry if this seems vague - I have limited information about the job at the moment.
Best wishes,
Paul

Time code does not travel over s-video. You'll need to go tc out of the beta to tc in on the dsr. Make sure the dsrt is set to take external code, or your dubs won't match-- and wrecking any chance of an easy on-line.

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