Better Application Express or Forms?

Hi,
I'd like to know, according to your experience, in all over the word which is most used for developing applications between Oracle Forms&Reports and Oracle Application Express (APEX).
After developing for many years in pl sql, I'd like to learn to use Oracle tools for developing applications and I'd like to understand what would be better to train in between Application Express and Forms.
Thanks in advance!

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-- http://www.apexblogs.info/
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I'm not sure why you feel the need to point me at a
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particularly when I wasn't the one asking the
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Hello.
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and p.patient_id=pa.patient_id
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I understand how to make a form on the Appointment table but given how that table contains lots of primary keys (numbers) it's not preferable for the user to have to deal with that.
Can I have some help with linking the two and making it functional?
Thanks in advance.

982909 wrote:
Hello.
I have several tables with the sql bellow:You are digging yourself a DEEP hole by using double quote marks & Mixed Case table & column names!
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CREATE TABLE "Appointment"
(     "Appointment_ID" NUMBER,
     "Employee_ID" NUMBER CONSTRAINT "NN_Dentist_Appointment" NOT NULL ENABLE,
     "Patient_ID" NUMBER CONSTRAINT "NN_PATIENT_Appointment" NOT NULL ENABLE,
     "Who_Made" NUMBER,
     "Who_Changed" NUMBER,
     "Who_Canceled" NUMBER,
     "Content" VARCHAR2(1000),
     "DATE" DATE,
AVOID using Reserved Words like "DATE" as column or table names!
>
I'm trying to make an application in Oracle Application Express and I've tried making an SQL report using the following SQL query:
CREATE OR REPLACE FORCE VIEW "Appointment_REPORT" ("DOCTOR", "PATIENT", "Content", "Date") AS
select concat(concat(v.name,' '),v.surname) as doctor, concat(concat(pa.name_patient,' '),pa.surname_patient) as pactent, p.content, p.date
from Appointment p, Amployee v, Patient pa
where
v.employee_id=p.employee_id
and p.patient_id=pa.patient_id
The SQL works fine and gives me lovely results in my report. However, I don't know how to link the SQL to my actual Appointment table. Deleting, updating or creating new appointments through this view is impossible because I get the following error Unexpected error, unable to find item name at application or page level.
I understand how to make a form on the Appointment table but given how that table contains lots of primary keys (numbers) it's not preferable for the user to have to deal with that.
Any table can have only ONE Primary Key.
Can I have some help with linking the two and to which "two" do you refer?
making it functional?Since you have told us what functionality is desired or expected,
I don't know what might be a solution.

Application Express Vs developer suite 10g

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I am a beginner and I am confused which application package I have to use to build
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Please help us.Since we are planning to upgrade our old software developed
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Please suggest us once again how to proceed in our environment.
Actually we have developed an in-house erp package consisting
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As per your suggestion we can use Developer suite 10g by doing
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Application express certification?

I found this beta exam for application express
http://education.oracle.com/pls/web_prod-plq-dad/db_pages.getpage?page_id=41&p_exam_id=1Z0_450
is there anything newer.
Thanks,
Doug

You need 90 minutes to complete the test but
"Candidates will receive a beta exam score report approximately 11 weeks after the close of the Beta Exam"
Why 11 weeks and not 10 or 12? ;) :)
Denes Kubicek
http://deneskubicek.blogspot.com/
http://www.opal-consulting.de/training
http://apex.oracle.com/pls/otn/f?p=31517:1
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Role oracle application express

Hi
I am new in Oracle application express
I have created one application in that application there are sevral form
for example there are form like A,B,C,D,E,F
I have created some user,but I dont want to give rights for some user like creating or editing
for exapmle some user only shows A,B,C form he can only see this form but not updating any page
and another user see some form like D,E,F he can create or update it like that
In short depend on his role he can do operation..
Please guide me

Here is some related documentation
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Hello,
for my company I have to do a complete comparison of four tools which can be used for creation of GUIs:
- Oracle Application Framework
- Oracle Forms
- Oracle Application Express
- Microsoft .NET Framework
Here in this topic I search for some facts about the ApEx:
- How does it work (language, tools, ...)
- Performance vs. the other three
- Integretation into E-Business Suite
- Possitbilites of the GUI
- Screenshots, Links, etc.
thx a lot

The goal is to build a GUI where you can handle Tabledate, etc. Well you can certainly very easily do that with APEX.
As for the disadvantages/advantages, what I would suggest is -
Option 1
Use -
1) OTN (plus other Vendors websites)
2) OTN Forums/Google Groups etc
3) Google to find other sources (but with extreme care to validate/verify your sources)
To research the information on your own. Unless you have experience of the products yourself, then this area is fraught with potential problems, as you are effectively quoting information that you have not verified yourself (hence the need to be very satisified that you trust the source of the information).
Option 2
Contact a respective expert in each of the technologies asking them to cite advantages and disadvantages of the tool they use.
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Option 3
By far the best option in my view -
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The most difficult thing about having 2 people comparing products A and B, is that the person extolling the virtues of product A might not know that product B actually makes certain things easier and vice-versa. By having someone who has used BOTH products discuss the pros and cons then you get a much more 'real-world usability' view of the benefits and drawbacks.
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