Better HSF for the K8N Neo Plat?

I have been looking at a few HSF's for about a month now, and I'm still not sure if I will buy it now or not but I will sooner or later, but these are the two that I have seen suggested the most, and seem to be the best (that don't sound like a vacuum):
Zalman 7000-CU= $38.50
or
Thermalright XP-90= $39.99
and keep in mind that the XP-90 doesn't come with a fan so that will be an extra $5.
So which one should I get?
Specs in sig
EDIT: Also if you don't like either one of these, could you suggest an alternative.
Thanks

I have the copper/aluminum Zalman CNPS7000A-ALCU Pure Copper/Pure Aluminum CPU Cooler which ihas lowered my temp greatly. It's only $34.99 with free 2nd day shipping from ZipZoomFly.com. They have great prices and you can't beat the shipping.
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=371002
Just note that you will have to remove the backplate from the Neo motherboard but if you use a plastic spatula and hair dryer it comes off very easily. Just keep firm but not hard pressure lift on the plate while using hair dryer. I was a little heavy handed and it made a sickening sound when it came off. Nothing bad to board as it was only the sticky stuff letting go.
Again, great HSF especially if you use Artic Silver5 with it. I connected mine to existing motherboard connection and used the included speed controller to slow down my 120mm input fan a little.
Rick
MSI K8N Neo Platinum (BIOS 1.5B6) 231 @ 10x HTF 3x
Athlon 64 3200+ w/Zalman CNPS7000A-ALCU @ 1.57V
1GB Corsair XMS TWINX PC3200C2PT Memory (Slot 1 & 3)
(3-3-3-11, 2T) @ 2.8V
2x160 RAID 0
1x160 Maxtor IDE 133 (Secondary Slave)
NEC 3500a DVD Dual Layer 16x (Primary Master)
NEC 2510a DVD 8x (Primary Slave)
ATI AIW Radeon 9600XT
HSF on Nvidia/NB (29c)
Antec TruePower 550 = +3.3V@32A, +5V@40A, +12V@24A

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ryansebiz,
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apply minimal heat paste
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