Better Print Quality....JPG or TIFF..?

I have a 3 Megapixel camera and was wondering which type of file I would get better print results from ...a JPG image at 1.2 MB or a TIFF of the same image at 8 MB..?
I'm starting to use online Photo Centers...such as WalMart or Sam's.

David is right. If you're going to do lots of editing on one image then you might want to use TIFF as the jpg will degrade a little bit each time it's edited and saved. if you have Photoshop or Photoshop Elements you can shoot in jpg and the open to edit and save as a Photoshop file. Subsequent edits will not lose quality. If you do use the PS or PSE method and you're editing from within iPhoto you must save it to the desktop the first time you edit a jpg and change it to a .psd file. Then import it and all future edits will be the same as editing with iPhoto.
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how do I stop the "for better print quality , place the page on the glass, and then press a copy button" page printing out every time I turn on printer? It is wasting ink! I have coped it once, as advised. Model HP deskjet 2540. Many thanks
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Hi bze,
To ensure the highest-quality prints, the printer performs a semi-automatic alignment process each time you install or replace the cartridges. The product prints an alignment page during this alignment process. To complete the process, you must place the alignment page on the scanner glass and scan the page. If you do not scan the alignment page, the product continues to print an alignment page every time that you turn on or turn off the product until you complete the full alignment process.
Click HERE to go to the HP Consumer Support document for more information.
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Epson Artisan 810 and Snow Leopard and Photoshop....Print quality??

I'm a little lost to be honest. I'm not sure where my problem is...Photoshop, Epson, or Snow Leopard
I'm using Photoshop CS4 to edit my photos. I've constrained my cropping to designated print sizes, thus pixelation changes as well.
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Is there something I'm missing or doing wrong?? How do I get better print quality?
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paper brand/quality matters?
what program should I be trying to print photos from (photoshop, iphoto, whatever)
how to manipulate the photo quality within whichever program I should be using
and anything else important that I may not have thought of
Thanks so much. I've seen great reviews of photo print quality for this printer, so I have hope that this problem can be remedied....?

Your printer is supported by the latest update supplied by Apple.
Cheap paper usually results in cheap looking results.
I'm using HP paper with a HP printer with a Canon Eos Rebel camera that outputs
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PhotoSmart 6520 Print Quality Diagnostic no grayscale

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Are your color cartridges working? Light grayscale areas are typically printed using the color inks to give better print quality. (The black ink droplets are much larger than the color, grayscale using color gives better prints.) Depending on your operating system there may be a setting in the driver for "Print in Grayscale".
Check the color print quality as shown in the document here.
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Print Quality....JPG or TIFF..?

I have a 3 Megapixel camera and was wondering which type of file I would get better print results from ...a JPG image at 1.2 MB or a TIFF of the same image at 8 MB..?
I'm starting to use online Photo Centers...such as WalMart or Sam's.

There are several issues here. First off, you need to realize how JPG works.
JPG is of course a compression standard where a large photo can be compressed to a much smaller file size. This is done by analyzing pixels in a given area that seem a lot alike, throwing most of them out and saving just some of them. Basically it does something like "gee these dozen pixels are all more or less the same color blue as this one pixel, so I will save the one pixel and note that the other 11 pixels are to be created the same as this one when the file is opened. Other times it might only be two pixels near each other that can be combined to one pixel, maybe other area you have to save each pixel. Really busy pictures with lots of different colors and textures will not compress down as well as scenes with a lot less variation. So a photo of you standing in front of a single color wall will compress down more than a photo of you standing in front of flower garden for example.
OK so you take the photo and if your camera is using JPG compression, the camera take the photo, does the JPG compression and then stores the resulting file to your memory card. When you open the photo on your computer, what you are seeing is the expanded version. In other words, the computer reads the JOG file and recreates all those thrown out pixels as instructed to do so (e.g. those 11 estimated pixels are drawn on the screen along with the one real pixel). So while your file might have only been 1/2 meg for your 2MP photo, what you see on the screen is now using 5.76 megabytes of your RAM (1600x1200 pixels with each pixel needing 3 colors of 8 bits each, so each pixel is 24 bits).
At this point, if you were to resave the file using JPG compression, say after you edit it, the computer has no idea which were the original pixels and which were the estimated pixels and so does the compression all over again. So you end up possibly saving some of the estimated pixels and throwing out the real pixels. If you repeat this over and over, you eventually end up with a crappy photo because you keep throwing out real data and creating estimated data. Doing this once is usually no big deal, so if you take a JPG from your camera, edit it, then resave the final version once, you won't notice the difference. But if you work on it 10 different days, making changes, resaving the JOG then reopening that new JPG each day, you end up with 10 generations removed from the original. BAD! So if you think you want to do editing many times, when you first open the original JPG, save it as a TIFF or a Photoshop type (uncompressed file). Then only save as a JPG if you want to sent that version somewhere or are done editing forever.
So to answer the original question, if your camera is giving you JPGs, if you open then save as a TIFF, you won't get any benefit when printing because the TIFF is really the same as the JPG just you are saving the uncompressed version. When Walmart or whoever opens your JPG they will get the same expanded version that you saved as a TIFF.
If your camera only does JPG to begin with, converting to TIFF gains you nothing other than being able to endlessly edit. But for photos you are not editing, conversion is not needed or beneficial. But if your camera does TIFF and JPG, in theory the TIFF will be better because there is no compression and no loss of data. However in practice, most modern cameras put out JPGs that I would challenge those picky people when presented with a printed TIFF (out of the camera) and a printed JPG (out of the camera) to determine which is which.
Patrick

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I recently sent an Illustrator file to FedEx Office to be printed and it just didn't look great. What do I need to fix (other than getting a real printing company! ) in order to get a higher print quality?
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Created a file in Illustrator then exported it as a tiff. (I needed it cropped and didn't like what I got by cropping it using the Pathfinder steps/options.)
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The pdf version of my illustration was horrid, so I had them print it from the Illustrator file. It was considerably better, but still had diagonal stripes (gradient) and vertical stripes (printing).
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Clipping Mask
Draw a closed path over the objects you want to maswk or crop, in this case probably a rectangle using the rectangle tool.
then select all the objects and the shape to be used as a mask.
then go to Object>Clipping Mask>Make
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Quality Setting for TIFF/JPG using SaveAs

Hi,
I'm trying to export a jpg or tiff as a "preview" image for a single pdf page. However, they look terrible - I am accessing the javascript object through C# and calling "SaveAs", but I can't find any parameters or methods to set the quality of the image. Can anyone help?
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Print quality gets worse, not better

Here's the situation:
A few months back I managed to get infected with malware. Ran Malware Bytes, which has this bad habit of destroying things you need as well as those you don't; after I got rid of the virus, I had all these problems printing to my Deskjet 1320. In addition the frequent jams, color print quality just went bad; replaced the color cartridge, it was just as bad. Diagnostic was telling me printer cartridge was full, but the 1320 just kept printing as though it was empty.
OK; maybe the printer's gone bad, tho it was only a few years old. So, this week, replaced it with a Deskjet 1520, which came with a brand-new color cartridge.
Installed the software, got it all hooked up - and the color print quality is still bad. Cleaned the cartridges - and the print quality grew worse.
I've about had enough of this, thank you very much. But I am wondering - is it possible that this is a software issue rather than a hardware issue? Because it CANNOT be a hardware issue at this point, not with brand-new cartridges (have a new black as well), and a brand-new printer.
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Print quality on Epson Stylus Photo R800

Hi...
I'm using Lightroom 3.6 and an Epson Stylus Photo R800. This printer is capable of printing very high quality pictures, as I know by using it for almost 5 years.
I have bought Lightroom about 6 month ago. I have tried anything I can think off to get those fabulus pictures out of my Epson printer. I alterd color managment settings, changed print resolutions, downloaded new printerdriver, ... Nothing works. Print quality when printing from Lightroom is very poor. Bad colors (dark), stripes over the whole image, it looks like nothing realy.
One of the things that I noticed is that the maximum resolution for printing in LR is 720 ppi. My Epson is capable of 1550 ppi.
I see a lot of discussion going about print quality with lightroom... I think however this is a more basic problem. My print qualiti is realy very very bad...
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When I export a picture to .jpg format (I shoot in RAW only), and print this directly from Windows, I do get the perfect picture a was used to... I cannot believe that Lightroom is unable to do the same.
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Erik.

Sorry for calling you 'Frank' Frans...
Vriendelijke groet,
Erik Henken.
Op 3 jan. 2012 om 20:23 heeft "c.frans w" <[email protected]> het volgende geschreven:
Re: Print quality on Epson Stylus Photo R800
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I would shine some light on your remark:
One of the things that I noticed is that the maximum resolution for printing in LR is 720 ppi. My Epson is capable of 1550 ppi.
I see a lot of discussion going about print quality with lightroom...
My name is :
Frans
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Kodak versus Shutterfly Print Quality

[Thought I posted this yesterday, but can't find it; apologies if duplicative.]
Although I want the convenience of creating albums and ordering prints of point-and-shoot snapshots through PE 4 from the Kodak Easy Share Gallery, after a test I noticed that Shutterfly produces better prints, particularly in skin tones. Has anyone else noticed this? And although I will use PE 4 to edit and print (on my own printer) particular photos that I want to take the time to work on, I still need a good solution for the batches of snapshots my wife and I take that don't justify the time to do individual editing. Are there options in ordering from Kodak that I'm missing (options that might improve the quality of the prints ordered)? Assuming I'm stuck with Shutterfly, are there shortcuts to creating an album in PE 4 that can be easily uploaded (without rearranging, e.g.) into Shutterfly for sharing and print ordering? Thanks in advance.

Barry,
You probably can not find yesterday's post because you accidentally posted in the Acrobat Elements forum - instead of here in the Photoshop Elements forum. Not to worry, you are here now.
>Are there options in ordering from Kodak that I'm missing (options that might improve the quality of the prints ordered)?
I can't help you here because I don't use the Kodak service. Peerhaps someone else who does will post a response.
>I still need a good solution for the batches of snapshots my wife and I take that don't justify the time to do individual editing.
>Assuming I'm stuck with Shutterfly, are there shortcuts to creating an album in PE 4 that can be easily uploaded (without rearranging, e.g.) into Shutterfly for sharing and print ordering?
Now I am not clear how you want to print the photos. Do you to print individual photos (perhaps 4x6)? Or do you want to print a full page layout with multiple photos on a page?
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How to export the same mb size of my cr2 files into jpg or tiff files in Lr?

How to export the same mb size of my cr2 files into jpg or tiff files in Lr?
Let's say my file size is 22mb, when i export the file to tiff or jpg, although Iam careful with the settings- file size, dimension, resolution, I can't manioukate how I want it.
With jpg I tried everything, no matter what i do or change in files size or resoltion it remains the same size- 7mb as opposed to 22..
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I would noramlly opt for a tiff file, sending such a high res through the nest a nightmare
This is probably just an improper use of terminology, but the resolution of a JPG, DNG and TIF should all be the same.
The files differ in size, not resolution and not number of pixels.
Jpg is not that bad, but its a pitty they have to be edited under a jpg format..
Your raws are edited as raw. There is no loss of quality in the editing process. The files are then exported as JPG, which will cause a loss of quality. For just about any use, the loss of quality in the image when you export a JPG at quality level 12 is NOT noticeable. For many uses, exporting a JPG at a quality level of 8 will not be noticeable either, unless you intend to print the photo at a very large size. As twenty_one (not his real name) said, "Jpeg compression is fantastically effective".

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I searched, but did not find recent information on print quality of books ordered through Aperture 3.
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2. The book will have the maximum of 100 pages (309 photos), and it's difficult for me to arrange the pictures in Aperture. I'm thinking to print the layout of the book and then to decide which picture goes where.
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So feeding iDVD, Roxio Toast™ or DVD-Studio Pro
• HD material results in down-scaling and neither of them give better result (rather worse) than if they are feed SD-video from start
• Progressive material as 1080p - as Video-DVD is as standard interlaced video result will be omitting every second line and following quality loss.
I create my SlideShows in iMovie HD6 or FinalCut as they downscale while keeping quality and they can transport interlaced video over to iDVD without more quality loss.
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Print quality difference between iphoto and aperture...?

when ordering books, is there a print quality difference between using iPhoto and Aperture? or are they sent to the same lab?
it's possible i may have some setting wrong, but when i order a book using iphoto, i never really feel the quality is that great. it's good, i just feel it could be a lot better. the print quality sort of reminds me of newsprint, albeit high quality newsprint. similar sized prints made at home on my basic 3-in-1 printer look better.
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Previews are what you view on your display. When you import a photo into Aperture (and I'm pretty sure iPhoto as well), your computer automatically generates a preview for quick viewing. The original images are stored in your library, but it is the preview that you see.
In Aperture, you are able to set the size and quality of these previews. When sharing photos between Aperture and iPhoto, the process is as follows:
Let's say that your images are stored in Aperture, but you also want to be able to view them in iPhoto without taking up too much room on your hard drive. Essentially, if you were to import the originals into iPhoto as well, you would be storing two exact, yet separate copies of the same image on your hard drive. As you are aware, with large images (whether JPEG's, and especially RAW) this would put quite a tax on your storage capacity after not too long.
So, you have your images in one or the other (in this case Aperture), but you want to play around with them in iPhoto. What you can do, is open iPhoto, go to the File menu and then select, Show Aperture Library. This will open a window with all of the contents of your Aperture Library. You can then drag any images you want into iPhoto . The only thing is, you are not dragging the original JPEG's, but rather, the previews of those images. If you have those previews set to a lower quality (again for capacity concerns), you will only have lower quality and lower detailed images in iPhoto. These images might not be ideal, or even suitable for printing high quality prints. The previews that you generate in Aperture though can be adjusted to be extremely high quality with no size limits.
My thinking was that since you mentioned Aperture, it sounded like you had experience with working with it and with ordering a photo book through Aperture. I guess you were saying that you ordered via iPhoto, weren't happy with the quality and were wondering if Aperture created books were better.
Anyway, if this is the case, I cannot answer that for you. I have never ordered a book through Aperture. If the quality of your images is good, you should be able to get a decent product no matter where you order it from. There is not doubt that the materials used and the print shop that does the work makes a difference, but if your images are good, you should still get a decent product through iPhoto. Perhaps iPhoto isn't the way to go though if you have had poor experiences with them.
If you haven't used Aperture yet, I would highly recommend it though aside from the photo book aspect of this thread. It is a stellar product.
I hope this helps.
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HP LaserJet 1018 .pdf print quality

When I print a .pdf, the print quality is very poor with a faint print density and imprecise edges.
I am running Windows 7 32-bit.
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