Better quality render AE or Premiere?

I know this might not be a big deal to some of you but since I have some shorts and feature that are gonna be projected at film festivals I'd like to know if anyone has any ideas.
Since that new 'max render quality' checkmark popped up in the 4.0.1 I don't like rendering out of Premiere. I'd like to know exactly what it does. Obviously that means media we rendered in CS4.0.0 didn't look as good as is could have (and we weren't told) but the big question is WHAT DOES IT DO THAT WASN'T BEING DONE IN CS3 AND IS OR ISN'T BEING DONE IN AFTER EFFECTS? It is slow, slower than AE does that mean it renders better than AE?
Call me overly curious but if I'm rendering a movie or short that gonna be projected on a movie theater screen I want best quality period.
So which one gives the best quality?
Thanks

Go to Sequence > Sequence settings > check the the maximum render quality check box > SAVE (you have to do this before you send to Adobe Media Encoder)
Now render out an uncompressed TIFF still (first frame) or ten seconds of any video as an uncompressed AVI.
Now that the renders done go back and uncheck the 'max render quality' now SAVE (important) then render same way.
Bring the two new files into with your original composition. Zoom in 200-400% toggle between them. The one with 'max render' is different but the other is exactly the same as the original down to the exact pixel what is what we want with uncompressed.
I tried with FX without FX rendered in AE CS3 and 4 and anything uncompressed matches exactly.
Not saying 'max render' makes it look bad just wondering what it's doing. As far as I can tell it does help for resizing and when your compress your video or a lot. Just don't wanna use it for this workflow. Also nice to know your renders are gonna look the same as they did before without checking the button and having to wait 2-3 times as long.

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