BEYOND frustrated with airport express/extreme

first of all, can someone please explain to me the difference between the following:
1. airport
2. airport extreme
3. airport express
4. airport extreme card
and with regards to #4: I own a new powerbook (purchased in dec 2005) which apparently does not have a card, but has the wireless receiver built into the motherboard and the ant. built into the screen. but it's still called a "card" apparently.
the problem is that I have an airport base station located about 15 feet from my powerbook. there is a clear glass window between the two. I simply cannot get the poserbook to show a full signal. I've tried changing the channel on the base, I've tried using interference robustness. nothing works. my signal is firmly stuck at 5 bars less than full.
my housemate has an old G4 ibook, and his bedroom is farther away from the base station than mine, and he gets a full signal.
thanks in advance to anyone who can sort this out!

Thanks, I learned something new. I didn't realize they had changed the wireless on newer PowerBook G4s. You are right that it is not user accessible, however it really is a separate card from the logic board (motherboard).
The PowerBook G4 (Double-Layer SD) models now use the combined AirPort Extreme/Bluetooth card.
The module is not user installable.
The PowerBook G4 (15-inch Double-Layer SD) case has been redesigned to remove the AirPort Extreme access door present on previous versions.

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I know this is not new. I have seen many discussions on this subject but no real answer.
My setup: ADSL modem connected to a AEBS (square, N compatible). Yesterday I got an older Airport Express (draft N) and extended the WiFi netowork.
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From my experience of setting up the Airport WiFi for family members and friends, I have learnt the following :-
1. Airport Express is not as good as Airport Extreme, for being as extender, the difference can be quite a lot.
2. There is always a dead cornor (bad reception) in a house
3. Even moving the Airport Extreme / AE a few inches, the performance can be improved quite significant
4. If possible, always choose 5G 802.11n than 2.4G, unless there are many thick walls.
My suggestion will be as follows :
1. Moving out the AEBS out of a closet, is a good idea
2. Always try to locate the AEBS in the centre of a area, instead of the two sides
3. Try to test the AEBS without an extender, and find the best location area (don't place on the floor, neither above 6 feet height)
4. After finding a best location, set the extender closer to the AEBS, and then moving apart from it (check the performance after every move), it is better that both devices can face each other.
5. I can't tell you the reason, and some people may not agree with me, the new 2013 Airport Exteme performance is better and may be is a good idea to replace your Airport Express, and use it to connect with your router, and old AEBS as an extender
6. Some Powerlinks (in case you can't use a wired ethernet connection between the two devices) work and some don't work with Apple Airport products, therefore, if possible, have an option to return them to the shop if they do not match
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Hi Up North,
I have an airport express connected by ethernet cable to a Netgear modem which is connected to a phone socket. Those devices stay at one end of the house. I can use my MacBook Pro to connect to the internet (by Wi-Fi, no cables) anywhere else in the house. I don't think airport is a stand-alone router. I hope this helps.
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It helps if you use specifics.
Are you talking about a USB printer?
What is the google modem router??
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"You can use the AirPort Express to extend the signal provided by the new AirPort, but the Express will not extend "ac" wireless since it does not have that capability. The Express will extend an "n" wireless signal if that helps."
This is what I am trying to understand.
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Use the search as this has been done to death ..
Bob Timmons is the expert on this.. look at his answers here.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4274187?start=0&tstart=0
https://discussions.apple.com/message/21856077#21856077
This has been automated in the v6 utility. I am used to doing it manually in v5 utility which is also fairly easy.
Apple doco is also good to read.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4145
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4259
Note.
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>I want to play iTunes as well as Pandora and possibly Sirius. Can I set this up with AirPort Express?
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>Would I control everything through iTunes on my MacBook or an iPad?
You could do either.
>How is this all wired if I have some existing external speakers with a receiver in my family room, built-in ceiling speakers in the kitchen, and outdoor external speakers?
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>What would I need for this situation?
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I am experiencing problems getting my lexmark p4350 printer to work wirelessly with Airport Express.
Can anybody tell me of any printer,multifunction device,laser printer that will work with AEX?

MACMV, Welcome to the discussion area!
Be aware that ONLY the printing feature of a multifunction device will be usable when connected to the USB port on the AirPort Express (AX).
Checkout "The iFelix unofficial Airport Extreme and Airport Express Printer Compatibility List".

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- made sure software was up to date (10.4.8)
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- re-installed fresh OS and Apps from original install disks
- Firefox instead of Safari
- new user account on 12" PB
- re-installed original 512 RAM
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Jerry,
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Any help is appreciated.

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Before that, in the 1970's we were changing from slide rules to electronic calculators which got steadily better and cheaper. The early Anita Calculator (with valves) cost as much as a small car - now they give simple calculators away with Christmas Cards.
I wonder how much further the technology behind the home computer will go before further advances, like those in calculators, become pointless from the user's point of view. Maybe it will take another 10 years or so but once everything we want to do is incorporated into a voice driven computing device possibly storing data in the cloud, then it will be the reliability of the components that will be the benchmark of a good system and having the latest "fastest" model will be far less important.

Configuring the time capsule airport wlan function as "connect to wlan", the time caspule gets a correct IP adress from the other wlans IP range, but does not assign this to the ethernet ports. With Airport Express it worked!

Configuring the time capsule airport wlan function as "connect to wlan", the time capsule gets a correct IP adress from the other wlans IP range, but does not assign this to the ethernet ports. With Airport express it worked, the single Ethernet port got the IP Parameters passed through!
My setup is a Vodafon Esaybox connected to ISP. Time Capsule is not able to extend the wlan of the easybox, neither airport express can do.
Only the option "connect to wlan" is succesful.
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With the time capsule the easybox dosn't find devices connected to the ethernet ports to submit IP adresses. The TV set get another IP adress (169.xxx.x.x.) in subnet mask 255.255.0.0 and I don not now where from.
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Any idea????
Thank a lot in advance!
Kind regards
Ingo

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That would appear to be a question for Apple to answer. You can make suggestions to Apple here:
Apple - AirPort Extreme - Feedback
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