BI Content patch level on BI system and source system

Hi all, hope you can help
our BI and ECC6 systems are separated. My question is, do we need to be on the same BI_CONT patch level in BI and ECC6? Our current patch level in BI is 7.0.3 level 9 and in ECC6 we have not loaded any patches, however we have BI content which was delivered with the install.
Regards
Charl

Plan on applying the Linux and Solaris versions of all applications patches to the respective servers.
How To Apply a Patch in a Multi-Server Environment
http://metalink.oracle.com/metalink/plsql/ml2_documents.showDocument?p_database_id=NOT&p_id=136342.1
Patches must always be applied in their entirety. If you apply a patch to update
your filesystem, you must also apply the corresponding database and generation
portions of the patch if they are included. When updating the filesystem in a
multi-server environment, you should apply the patch on all servers.
You can see what patches have been applied to which nodes in OAM on the Applied Patches page. Oracle will not advise you to have patch differences, otherwise supportability comes into question due to partial patch application.

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Logical system and business system

Hi experts, please help me with the below questions---
1) What is the diff between logical system and business system?
2)what is the difference between logical system(defined in R/3) and business system (defined in SLD) in idoc to file scenario.
3) Is it require to give the logical system name of the xi server(Which we define in idx1 port) to the 3rd party system(Application system at the FTP side) to carry out file to idoc scerario?

Hi,
Business System :
1. Business systems are logical systems, which function as senders or receivers within XI. Business systems can be SAP systems or third-party systems. Depending on the associated technical system.
2. Business Systems should be mandatory used when dealing with Idoc's and Proxies .
Business Service:
1. Business Service requires manual adding on Inbound and Outbound Interfaces, Business Systems do not.
2. Business Services are maintained across environments and so, their names cannot be changed. Business Systems names can be changed across environments by providing SLD level transport targets.
3.In the Business Services we cannot maintain the Group and Targets in SLD. For Ease in transporting your ID/Configuration objects Groups and Targets are used in SLD for Business Systems.
4.Business Service has no SLD Entries and No Assigned Products and SWCV's
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SLD Configuration - Technical System and Business System

Hello,
I have installed SAP Solution Manager with local SLD and i want to use this system as Central SLD for my System Landscape. Later on i have installed other SAP Products like ECC,BI,PI etc.
Some of the systems i registered with previously defined SLD in Solution Manager, but some system i forgot to register with SLD during installation.
I am not sure or aware what is the difference between SLD configuration during installation and after installation.
If i have Register the System during installation will it register automatically with SLD or we have to do manually.
If i have not register system during installation and later on i want to register particular system with SLD what is procedure for that.
Can some one share knowledge on What is Technical Systems and Business System in SLD Configuration, i tried to do some activity for SLD Configuration but after seeing above both terms i was confused so for time being i stopped this activity.
Looking forward for kind response.
Best Regards,
V.Singh

Hello
try to go through these
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nwesrce/helpdata/en/45/4208934d7f1193e10000000a1553f7/content.htm
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/652b1f46-0a01-0010-25ae-e7cb07b55414

Difference between client system and logical system

Hi all
Can any one explain about the client system and logical system??
When this message type will comes in to picture at the time idoc processing??
Thanks and Regards
Arun Joseph

hi Arun,
I am giving the complete info on idoc.pls chk once.then ur issue will be solved.ok
and to know the diffrence between client and logical system very keenly go thru this link
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/advancedsearch?cat=sdn_all&query=abouttheclientsystemandlogicalsystem&adv=false&sortby=cm_rnd_rankvalue
IDOC Administration
Step 1: Tcode: WE 46
Setting the Global Parameter for IDOC Interface
Step 2: Maintaing a Logical System
Path: From the ALE Customizing in IMG, choose Sending and Recieving Systems,
Logical Systems, Define Logical systems
Go to Spro transaction
Step 3: Allocating Logical systems to the Client
Path: From the ALE Customizing in IMG, choose Sending and Recieving Systems,
Logical Systems, Assign Client to Logical systems
Go to Spro transaction
Step 4: Setting up an RFC destination
Tcode: SM 59
Path: From the ALE Customizing in IMG, choose Communication, Define RFC
Destination
You can also do the Advanced Settings in the RFC Destination
Step 5: The PORT definition
TCode: WE 21
Path: From the ALE Customizing in IMG, choose Sending and Recieving Systems,
Systems in Network, Asynchronous Processing, Assign Ports, Define Port
Step 6: Generating Partner Profiles
TCode: BD 82
Path: From the ALE Customizing in IMG,choose Modeling and Implemantation Business
Process, PArtner Profiles and Time of Processing, Generate Partner Profiles
Step 7: Distributing the Model
TCode: BD 64
Path: From the ALE Customizing in IMG,choose Modeling and Implemantation Business
Process, Maintain Distribution Model and Distribute Views
Technques for Distributing the Master Data:
Technique 1: The Push Approach
Executing the Process:
TCode: BD 10
Path: from the ALE Main Menu, choose Material Data Distribution, Cross
Application, Material, Send
Technique 2: The Change Pointer Technique
Enable Change Pointers Globally
TCode: BD 61
Path: From the ALE Customizing in IMG,choose Modeling and Implemantation Business
Process, MAster Data distribution, Replication of Modified Data, Activate
Change Pointers
Enable Change Pointers Globally
TCode: BD 50
Path: From the ALE Customizing in IMG,choose Modeling and Implemantation Business
Process, MAster Data distribution, Replication of Modified Data, Activate
Change Pointers for Message Type
Specify the Fields for which Change Pointers are to be written
TCode: BD 52
Path: From the ALE main Menu, Choose ALE Development, IDOCs, Change , Define
Change-Relevant Fields
How the Classification system works:
Creating a Class Type
TCode: O1 CL(it is CAPITAL O)
Path: From the ALE Customizing in IMG,choose Modeling and Implemantation Business
Process, MAster Data distribution,Distribution using Object Classes, Maintain Class Types
Maintaing Status for the Class Types:
TCode: O1 CL(it is CAPITAL O)
Path: From the ALE Customizing in IMG,choose Modeling and Implemantation Business
Process, MAster Data distribution,Distribution using Object Classes, Maintain Class Types
Maintaing Classification Status:
TCode: O1 CL(it is CAPITAL O)
Path: From the ALE Customizing in IMG,choose Modeling and Implemantation Business
Process, MAster Data distribution,Distribution using Object Classes, Maintain Class Types
Maintaing Classes:
TCode: CL 01 (it is zero)
TCode: O1 CL(it is CAPITAL O)
Path: From the ALE Customizing in IMG,choose Modeling and Implemantation Business
Process, MAster Data distribution,Distribution using Object Classes, Maintain Classes
Allocating classes to the Logical Syatems
TCode: BD 68
TCode: O1 CL(it is CAPITAL O)
Path: From the ALE Customizing in IMG,choose Modeling and Implemantation Business
Process, MAster Data distribution,Distribution using Object Classes, Assign classes
to Logical systems
Filering at the IDOC level:
Identify the Filter Object:
TCode: BD 59
Path: From the ALE main Menu, Choose ALE Development, IDOCs,Data Filtering, Assign Filter Objects
Type to IDOC Field
Modify the Distribution model
How Segment Filtering Works:
Configuration:
Configring the segment-filtering technique is a one-step process.Just specify the segments to be filtered
TCode: BD 56
Path: From the ALE Customizing in IMG,choose Modeling and Implemantation Business
Process, MAster Data distribution,Scope of the Data for Distribution, Filter IDOC Segments
The Reduced IDOC Type:
The reduced IDOC type allows to get down to the field level and specify the fields a recieving system does not need.
The System still needs the fields, but this has no effect on the recieving system because each field has a null value,
represented by a forward slash(/) in the field.
TCode: BD 53
Path: From the ALE Customizing in IMG,choose Modeling and Implemantation Business
Process, MAster Data distribution,Scope of the Data for Distribution, Message Reduction,
Create Reduced Message Type
IDOC:
Complete Documentaion on any IDOC using TCode: WE 60
IDOC Display Tool: TCode: WE 02 or WE 05
IDOC DEfinition components:
Segment Components:
1. Segment Type (E1, Z1)
2. Segment Definition(E2, Z2)
3. Segment Documentation(E3, Z3)
E- SAP Defined
z- Custom Defined
IDOC runtime componets:
control Record:
Data Record:
Staus Record:
First Create the Segments using TCode: WE 31
and then create the IDOC using TCode: We3 30
first release the segments and then IDOC.
Creating a new Basic IDOC Type:
STEP 1: Analyze the Data:
STEP 2: Create Data Elements:
STEP 3: Create Segments:
STEP 4: Create Basic IDOC Type:
1. Execute TCode: WE 30
2. Select the Create new option and enter a description for your basic IDOC type
3. click the IDOC name, and click the create icon.
Enter the segment type and its attributes.
4. Keep on adding the segments as in step 3.
5. Save the basic IDOC type
Step 5: Release the Segment Type and Basic IDOC Type
STEP 6: Transport the Segments and Basic IDOC Type
Extending a Basic IDOC type:
STEP 1: Analyze the Data:
STEP 2: Create Custom Segments:
STEP 3: Create the IDOC Type:
STEP 4: Release the custom Segment and IDOC Extension
Develop the function module for fteching the Data and then inserting the data into IDOC using
EDIDD(for control Record) and EDIDC table(for DATA Record)
Configuring the Systen for IDOCs
Configure an Outboubd Process that uses Message Control
Step 1: Create a new Message Type
TCode: We 81
Path: From the Area menu of EDI, choose Development, IDOC Type/ Message
Step 2: link the IDOC type to the Message Type
TCode: We 82
Path: From the Area menu of EDI, choose Development, IDOC Type/ Message
Step 3: Create a new Process Code
TCode: We 41
Path: From the Area menu of EDI, choose Control,Outbound Process COde
Step 4: Create or Change a Partner Profile
TCode: We 41
Path: From the Area menu of EDI, choose IDOC,Partner Profile
Configure an Outboubd Process for Stand-Alone Programs
1. Create a new message type
2. Link the IDOC type to the Message Type
3. Add the message to the ALE Distribution Model(use BD 64)
4. Create or change the Partner Profile
go through the following site to have screen shots.
http://www.****************/Tutorials/ALE/ALEMainPage.htm
thanks
karthik
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What's different between busniess system and technical system in SLD?

I can enter product(ect.ERP r/3) , components(ect.FI-CO module) to technical system , then enter technical system to busniess system but ,who can explain what's different between busniess system and technical system in SLD, exactly?
THANKS!

Technical Systems are of following types:
Technical systems are application systems that are installed in your system landscape. An example of an application system is a Customer Relationship Management (CRM) server. In the SLD, there are five types of technical systems:
1.)WEBas java,
2.)Standalone JAVA
3.)Third party
4.)Web as ABAP
1) Web AS Java
Web AS Java systems consist of one or more instances and each instance is installed on a separate host. An instance itself consists of cluster nodes that can communicate with each other.
2.)Standalone Java
Standalone Java technical systems are standalone Java applications that are installed in a computer system from an administration perspective. They can also be installed as an operating system service or as a daemon
Web AS java belongs to the NetWeaver Comes with both ABAP and Java, Standalone instread comes separate from the netWeaver.
3) Third party technical sytem
It can be any of the technical sytem. let us say if you want to send a file to R/3, here the file reside in your local system. for that you can define your local system as a third party technical system.
All those machines that comes under non sap, belongs to the third party.
4.) Web AS ABAP technical systems, ranging from any SAP system to an APO server or CRM server, are based on the same Basis Component (BC), which includes the ABAP interpreter, ABAP Dictionary, ABAP Workbench, and so on. A dedicated database, which stores most of the data of the BC and the application components, is associated with the system.
Also refer : http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/24/8fa93e08503614e10000000a114084/content.htm
Business systems are logical systems, which function as senders or receivers within XI. Business systems can be SAP systems or third-party systems.
Depending on the associated technical system, the following types of business systems are defined in the SLD:
· Web AS ABAP
A business system, which is associated with a Web AS ABAP.
A business system, which is associated with a Web AS ABAP, can play the role either of an application system or an integration server. An integration server is the central component of XI, which provides a framework for the exchange of information among various internal and external entities of a company. The integration server facilitates the interaction between the different operating systems and applications across internal and external networks.
· Web AS Java
A business system, which is associated with a Web AS Java.
· Standalone
A business system, which is associated with a standalone Java application.
· Third-party
A business system, which is associated with a third-party technical system.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/24/8fa93e08503614e10000000a114084/frameset.htm

Configuration Wizard-NW:BI-AS ABAP(Connectivity of BI and Source System): M

Hi friends,
I´m configuring the (NW: BI - AS ABAP (Connectivity of BI and Source System): Maintain) in NWA using Configuration Wizard.
But there is the error in step (NW: BI - AS ABAP (Connectivity of BI and Source System): Maintain > Scenario UI: NW_BI_ABAP_DEFAULT > Scenario Process: Abap Server Integration to BI > Configuration Process > Configuration Unit: Initialize > Config Unit BI System: Initialize > Customizing: Assign Logical System to Client > Write Customizing data to Table T000)
Below error log:
*Write Customizing data to Table T000*
Description:
Exception in step "WriteProfile_1223390220410"
Exception details : com.sap.tc.lm.ctc.metamodel.exception.ActionExecuteException: Exception during the import of the profile!
State
Step finished with error
Support Information
Type of Action
WriteProfile
Debug Events
WriteProfile:Write Customizing data to Table T000
Library: sap.com/tclmconfig~bs
SourcePath ./com_sap_nw_bi_abap_default_maintain/ext_12064772269223/ext_1206447991146/Process_1207123636083/proc_1196064316796/Process_1204300420808/proc_1204300371034/WriteProfile_1223390220410
Time 2011/11/03 at 15:36:57
Schema content/NetWeaver/Common/Customizing/Clients/T000.xsd
Type : View Maintenance
Input
<TABLE_T000 xmlns:expr="http:/sap.com/ctc/expressions"><T000><MANDT>100</MANDT><LOGSYS>SOLCLNT100</LOGSYS></T000></TABLE_T000>
Schema
<xsd:schema xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" xmlns:vma="http://www.sap.com/ctc/vma"
elementFormDefault="qualified"> <xsd:element name="TABLE_T000" type="TABLE_T000"></xsd:element> <xsd:complexType name="TABLE_T000"> <xsd:sequence> <xsd:element name="T000" type="T000"> <xsd:annotation> <xsd:appinfo
source="http://www.sap.com/ctc"> <vma:vmacontext table="T000" isupdate="false"/> </xsd:appinfo> </xsd:annotation> </xsd:element> </xsd:sequence> </xsd:complexType> <xsd:complexType name="T000"> <xsd:sequence> <xsd:element name="MANDT" type="xsd:string"> <xsd:annotation> <xsd:appinfo source="http://www.sap.com/ctc"> <vma:vmaproperty column="MANDT"/> </xsd:appinfo>
</xsd:annotation> </xsd:element> <xsd:element name="LOGSYS" type="xsd:string"> <xsd:annotation> <xsd:appinfo source="http://www.sap.com/ctc"> <vma:vmaproperty column="LOGSYS"></vma:vmaproperty> </xsd:appinfo> </xsd:annotation> </xsd:element
</xsd:sequence> </xsd:complexType> </xsd:schema>
Destination parameters
user : SOLMAN_ADMIN
password : % secure content %
host : cdsolman
sysnr : 01
client : 100
language : en
Stack Trace
Caused by: com.sap.tc.lm.ctc.cul.api.CULServiceException: Exception during the import of the profile!
     at com.sap.tc.lm.ctc.cul.serviceimpl.writeProfile.CULServiceWriteProfileImpl.writeProfile(CULServiceWriteProfileImpl.java:98)
     at com.sap.tc.lm.ctc.cul.serviceimpl.process.WriteProfileControllerImpl.execute(WriteProfileControllerImpl.java:160)
     ... 16 more
Caused by: com.sap.tc.lm.ctc.cul.cpi.context.ConfigurationBrokerException: <Localization failed: ResourceBundle='com.sap.tc.lm.ctc.cul.cpi.CPIResourceBundle', ID='xml_parsing_exception', Arguments: []> : Can't find resource for bundle java.util.PropertyResourceBundle, key xml_parsing_exception
     at com.sap.tc.lm.ctc.cul.broker.BrokerWriteProfileImpl.writeProfile(BrokerWriteProfileImpl.java:79)
     at com.sap.tc.lm.ctc.cul.serviceimpl.writeProfile.CULServiceWriteProfileImpl.writeProfile(CULServiceWriteProfileImpl.java:95)
     ... 17 more
Caused by: com.sap.tc.lm.ctc.provider.vmaprovider.exceptions.VMAProviderBaseException: Incorrect XML
     at com.sap.tc.lm.ctc.provider.vmaprovider.util.VMAUtil.getDocument(VMAUtil.java:349)
     at com.sap.tc.lm.ctc.provider.vmaprovider.util.VMAUtil.setXmlValue(VMAUtil.java:250)
     at com.sap.tc.lm.ctc.provider.vmaprovider.util.JCOProfileExecutorImpl.executeContext(JCOProfileExecutorImpl.java:310)
     at com.sap.tc.lm.ctc.provider.vmaprovider.util.JCOProfileExecutorImpl.executeChildNode(JCOProfileExecutorImpl.java:183)
     at com.sap.tc.lm.ctc.provider.vmaprovider.util.JCOProfileExecutorImpl.executeProfile(JCOProfileExecutorImpl.java:129)
     at com.sap.tc.lm.ctc.provider.vmaprovider.VMAWriteProfile.writeProfile(VMAWriteProfile.java:59)
     at com.sap.tc.lm.ctc.cul.broker.BrokerWriteProfileImpl.writeProfile(BrokerWriteProfileImpl.java:144)
     at com.sap.tc.lm.ctc.cul.broker.BrokerWriteProfileImpl.writeProfile(BrokerWriteProfileImpl.java:73)
Caused by: com.sap.engine.lib.xml.parser.NestedSAXParserException: Fatal Error: com.sap.engine.lib.xml.parser.ParserException: Incorrect encoded sequence detected at character (hex) 0x6f, (bin) 1101111. Check whether the input parsed contains correctly encoded characters. Encoding used is: 'utf-8'(:main:, row:1, col:637)(:main:, row=1, col=637) -> com.sap.engine.lib.xml.parser.ParserException: Incorrect encoded sequence detected at character (hex) 0x6f, (bin) 1101111. Check whether the input parsed contains correctly encoded characters. Encoding used is: 'utf-8'(:main:, row:1, col:637)
     at com.sap.engine.lib.xml.parser.DOMParser.parse(DOMParser.java:139)
     at com.sap.engine.lib.jaxp.DocumentBuilderImpl.parse(DocumentBuilderImpl.java:127)
     at javax.xml.parsers.DocumentBuilder.parse(DocumentBuilder.java:76)
     at com.sap.tc.lm.ctc.provider.vmaprovider.util.VMAUtil.getDocument(VMAUtil.java:341)
Caused by: com.sap.engine.lib.xml.parser.ParserException: Incorrect encoded sequence detected at character (hex) 0x6f, (bin) 1101111. Check whether the input parsed contains correctly encoded characters. Encoding used is: 'utf-8'(:main:, row:1, col:637)
     at com.sap.engine.lib.xml.parser.readers.EncodedDataReader.read(EncodedDataReader.java:209)
     at com.sap.engine.lib.xml.parser.readers.EncodedDataReader.read(EncodedDataReader.java:207)
     at com.sap.engine.lib.xml.parser.helpers.AdvancedXMLStreamReader.read(AdvancedXMLStreamReader.java:143)
All the others steps were finished successfully
Only this step is with error. I don´t know that to do.
Regards,
Ricardo Arriado
Edited by: Ricardo Arriado on Nov 4, 2011 6:24 PM

Hi,
Please double check the JCO user and the authorization.
Or
Apply these two notes, it should resolve ur issue
1493124 CTC: Check table existence before table whitelist
1471762 CTC: Automated Configuration:
Hope this helps u.
Best Regards
Vijay K

Both Source system and BI system under BI tab not comming under SAP tab

Dear Experts
we have installed ECC6.0EhP4 ABAP and Netweaver BI7.0EhP1 ABAP,with AIX6.1,Oracle11G, I am trying to make connectivity between two system
its done successfully,But I am facing following error
1.in BI and ECC i am seeing source system and BI system under BI tab, its not coming under SAP tab,and BI consultant saying they are not able to extract the data from ECC ,they want source system Under SAP tab,how to solve this
2.In BI system they unable to execute the query ( I have applied GUI7.20 BI patch and Query patch) for this do we need JAVA stack?? kindly advice me
Regards
krishna
Edited by: krishna murthy on Mar 31, 2011 8:36 AM

thank you very much after gone through that Snote 1087980
problem got solved
Enter the following values
I_BIW_LOGSYS GDVCLNT200
I_OLTP_LOGSYS GDVCLNT200
I_FORCE_DELETE <X>
< DO NOT ENTER ANY VALUE IN THE FIELD - RFC target sys !!!!! >
Go to RSA1-> Source systems in the BI system connected to the ECC
system.
Select the ECC source system and select RESTORE in the right click
menu.
thanks
regards
krishna

Technical systems and Business systems in SAP XI

can any one tell me ,breifly explain the diff b/w <b>Technical Systems</b> & Business Systems?
steps to create Techincal system and Business systems?
and also Steps for creating Software Components? For Technical System we can create more than one Business systems ,what it means?can any one explain?

Hi
First I let u know with analogy and actual definition as below
Any module of SAP like MM, SRM, FICO ets makes a logical system in combination according to business requirements is a business system which is actualy hosted on an application server like ABAP AS or Java AS which is basically a technical system.
Technical systems are application systems that are installed in system landscape (a CRM server, for example). Most systems (Web AS ABAP and Web AS Java systems) automatically report information to the SLD about the elements that they contain by using the SLD data supplier programs. You need to manually register the following types of system only:
Standalone Java systems
Third-party systems
Business systems are logical senders or receivers that exchange messages by using SAP XI and that are entered in the System Landscape Directory.
The business systems in the System Landscape Directory relate to a system landscape.
The business systems of business partners are not entered in the System Landscape Directory. To be able to address such business partners logically, use services in the Integration Directory. A business system is a way of specifying a service in the Integration Directory more precisely (business system service).
U can also refer Blog's
Re: Difference betweeen Technical systems and Business systems
For creation of software component see link
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/3172d290-0201-0010-2b80-c59c8292dcc9
<b>Reward point if it help u understand
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Message was edited by:
Ajay Kumar

Diffebetween Business system and Logical system...

what is the difference between Business system and Logical system...

Hi
Business system is a logical layer needed for configuration in integration directory. On the other site technical system is physical representation of your technical landscape. In case of SAP technical systems you can have more than one business system relation. In that situation there is relation one client to one business system.
If your technical system changes, then you definitely need to point this new technical system to the existing Business system which has been used to do all the Configurations in the Integration Builder.
Re: business system
Re: business system
Thanks

What is a R/3 system, logical system, and legacy system...???

Hi,
Please throw some light on...What is a R/3 system, logical system, and legacy system...???

Hi,
R/3 system is a normal SAP system that stores data.
A legacy system is an existing computer system or application program which continues to be used because the user does not want to replace or redesign it.
Logical System:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/c8/5aa2a0deb91548a1842f8485dee4a2/frameset.htm
Technical System:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/24/8fa93e08503614e10000000a114084/frameset.htm
Regards,
Subhasha

Difference betweeen Technical systems and Business systems

Hi
In a SLD we need to configure technical systems and Business systems.. what is the exact difference between Technical Systems and Business Systems..
this question is asked an interview.. for this.. how can we explain..
thanks
babu

Hi babu
First I let u know with analogy and actual definition as below
Any module of SAP like MM, SRM, FICO ets makes a logical system in combination according to business requirements is a business system which is actualy hosted on an application server like ABAP AS or Java AS which is basically a technical system.
Technical systems are application systems that are installed in system landscape (a CRM server, for example). Most systems (Web AS ABAP and Web AS Java systems) automatically report information to the SLD about the elements that they contain by using the SLD data supplier programs. You need to manually register the following types of system only:
Standalone Java systems
Third-party systems
Business systems are logical senders or receivers that exchange messages by using SAP XI and that are entered in the System Landscape Directory.
The business systems in the System Landscape Directory relate to a system landscape.
The business systems of business partners are not entered in the System Landscape Directory. To be able to address such business partners logically, use services in the Integration Directory. A business system is a way of specifying a service in the Integration Directory more precisely (business system service).
Reward point if it help u understand

Business System and Technical System ??

Hi Experts,
Please tell, What is the Technical System and Business System. How many Technical and Busniess Systems do we have in XI ?
Early responses are welcome.

Hi,
Business systems:
Business systems are logical systems, which function as senders or receivers within PI. Business systems can be SAP systems or third-party systems.
Depending on the associated technical system, the following types of business systems are defined in the SLD:
Web AS ABAP:
A business system, which is associated with a Web AS ABAP.
A business system, which is associated with a Web AS ABAP, can play the role either of an application system or an integration server. An integration server is the central component of PI, which provides a framework for the exchange of information among various internal and external entities of a company. The integration server facilitates the interaction between the different operating systems and applications across internal and external networks.
Web AS Java:
A business system, which is associated with a Web AS Java.
Standalone:
A business system, which is associated with a standalone Java application.
Third-party:
A business system, which is associated with a third-party technical system.
Technical systems:
Technical systems are application systems that are installed in your system landscape. An example of an application system is a Customer Relationship Management (CRM) server. In the SLD, there are five types of technical systems:
Web AS ABAP:
Web AS ABAP technical systems, ranging from any SAP system to an APO server or CRM server, are based on the same Basis Component (BC), which includes the ABAP interpreter, ABAP Dictionary, ABAP Workbench, and so on. A dedicated database, which stores most of the data of the BC and the application components, is associated with the system.
Web AS Java:
Web AS Java systems consist of one or more instances and each instance is installed on a separate host. An instance itself consists of cluster nodes that can communicate with each other.
Standalone Java:
Standalone Java technical systems are standalone Java applications that are installed in a computer system from an administration perspective. They can also be installed as an operating system service or as a daemon.
Third-Party:
Third-party technical systems contain third-party software components and products.
Regards,
Prakasu

Use of Business Systems and Technical Systems

Hi
What is the use of having business systems and technical systems in SAP XI. I don't see any configuration details needed to create these. I understand that it logically divides the interfaces into different business systems but is that the only use? The only place I see the real configuration done is in the adapter configuration.
Vijay

Vijay,
The technical system actually works better for our non-SAP systems than the SAP systems. Here is our scenario:
We have an AS400 business system that uses a file adapter to send files to XI and then uploaded to SAP ECC. The file adapter does not ask for the system information so we can switch between dev and test by changing the DNS address in the technical system entry (dynamic reference like a property file lookup). The communication channel settings do not have to change.
The receiver is SAP using an RFC adapter which requires the system ID, and client (hard coded). Everytime we change clients, we have to change the settings in the RFC adapter. This is more to your point of why do we have a technical system if we have to provide the settings in the adapter as well. The RFC adapter should read the application server and client values from it's parent business system so the changes don't have to be made everytime we point to a new client( such as QA). This is irritating.
So maybe the theory is good but the implementation could be better in this case.
Thanks,
Troy

Technical system and Business system

Hi All
I am new XI.
Why we have WEB AS JAVA, WEB AS ABAP, THIRD PARTY etc etc in Technical system and Business system and when we will use that ?
Thanks
ss

Hi,
When we try to connect any other SAP R/3 system using XI, we need to create a business system in SLD.
Similarly for third party and WEB AS Java systems.
You will be using these in many scenarios.
Go thro the link for more info.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04s/helpdata/en/42/c817d9d2296bb2e10000000a1553f6/frameset.htm
Regards,
P.Venkat

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