BI Discoverer Install

Please help. Does anyone know how to install BI Discoverer. I had an old version and downloaded the BI version. The Administrator part is fine, but the new Discoverer User menu item (off stat/programs //BI etc) does not show up.
All and any ideas are desired. Please email me at [email protected]
Thanks.

Hi,
you may be more successful asking this question on a BI related forum. This forum is for Oracle Forms related questions
Frank

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    Data sources range from linked tables to stored procedures built exclusively for the purposes of generating the report. Most, but not all, of our reports are built allowing for parameterized input by the end user.
    I currently use our Sharepoint intranet to make my Crystal reports available. I have security groups set up that "mirror" our database roles, and I make reports visible only to those users who should have need of them.
    I'm planning for the future, and would like to streamline things. Ideally, there'd be ONE site where people could go to run reports, but that site would include all "simple" reports as well as the more complicated, and security would be enforced as it is now: users only see those reports that they should be able to run.
    My question (finally!) is this: for those more complicated reports, with the sophisticated layouts -- can I use Discoverer? I'm starting to upgrade our system to BI 10g, and so see that there's now the lovely Discoverer Viewer, which I think will come in handy. But I don't see anything in Discoverer that will allow me to build these complicated layouts. Am I missing something?
    Is there one tool that I can use to do the complicated reports, but my users can use to build simple query output? Is Discoverer that tool?
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    Hi
    Asking whether Discoverer is the tool within a Discoverer forum is an interesting question because you'll get a loaded answer. There's a lot of different factors to be taken into consideration and I'm sure you will have some answers suggesting OBI EE's tool which is BI Answers.
    The short and the long of it is that Discoverer is a relatively cheap (pricewise) BI tool, probably one of the cheapest in the market and certainly one of the easiest to use. OBIEE is a very sophisticated toolset which can certainly handle complex reports but is rather pricy - approximately 8 times more per CPU than Discoverer. Does it have 8 times the functionality? Now there's another loaded question. Having worked with Discoverer now for the best part of 12 years I can honestly say that I do not see an 8 times improvement in OBIEE when compared to Discoverer. Now of course I'm biased - I will openly admit that.
    I will also say that I have a full in-depth understanding of Discoverer and can generally get it to do things that others say it cannot do.
    I do not have the same in-depth understanding of OBIEE so I will have to focus my answer on Discoverer.
    In my opinion, Discoverer is the perfect launch point for business intelligence. Coming as it does as part of the Oracle BI suite you will not be locked into it should you wish to upgrade down the road. Oracle is constantly adding inter-operability to Discoverer and very soon you will be able to use many of the OBIEE tools sitting on top of and pulling data provided by Discoverer. There are 1000s and 1000s of Discoverer licenses in use and Oracle knows this.
    Personally, if you already have Discoverer in-house I would say go for it and attempt to build the complex reports you are referring to. You'll probably need to do some database work behind the scenes, maybe creating a data mart to support the requirements. Then you can take advantage of the BI features within the database, features such as partitioning, bitmap indexes and materialized views to name but three.
    If you yourself have not yet mastered Discoverer either as an administrator or as an end user you will struggle. However, this is not the fault of the tool. What you need is to get some training. This way you will maximize your company's investment and you'll be able to decide whether it can give you what you need, at least in the short term. There are many places you can go to get training and my company is one of them. I like to think that we know it a little better than most because I wrote the Oracle Discoverer10g Handbook.
    It's your decision though but I would strongly consider getting yourself trained. You also want to make sure that you have the most up to date version of Discoverer installed otherwise you're already setting yourself up for failure.
    Does this help?
    Best wishes
    Michael Armstrong-Smith
    URL: http://ascbi.com
    Blog: http://learndiscoverer.blogspot.com

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