Bidding process in SRM WITHOUT bidding engine

I need to create a bidding process in SRM. I know it is similar to RFQ. I dont need a live auction scenario where we need a bidding engine.
Is it possible to create a bid invitation, accept bids, compare bids completely in SRM and then accept the best bid and convert into PO or contract WITHOUT a bidding engine. (similar to an RFC-quotation process in R/3). If so can anyone please explain the process.
Regards

If you read the master guide for SRM 5.0 for diff business scenario it will say
SAP® Supplier Relationship Management Server 5.5 (SAP SRM Server 5.5)
(based on SAP® Web Application Server 7.00, comprises SAP® Enterprise Buyer, SAP® Bidding Engine and Supplier Self-Services)
means SRM server is the central componnt which comprises bidding engine also
you don't need any seperate software component (like CCM) for bidding.
It Is possible to create a bid invitation, accept bids, compare bids completely in SRM and then accept the best bid and convert into PO or contract with SRM server.
You need to have correct roles for internal users
purchaser (.... stal_operational_purchaser)
and external users
bidders (... stal_bidder)
what you may need extra is SAP LICENCE for usage of this functionality on PROD system ( not dev)
BR
Dinesh

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Hi All,
can anyone help me with the following from an SAP point of view, I know how the business process works for each
1. How does the RFI scenario for bidding work in SAP Bidding Engine? What would the config look like for the transaction type and what would the suppliers response be?
2. How does the RFP scenario for bidding work in SAP Bidding Engine? What would the config look like for the transaction type and what would the suppliers response be?
3. Does the cFolders collabortation allow back and forth processing between supplier and purchasing team to enable the supplier to post questions that need answering as part of an RFP process?
Cheers
Chris

Hi Chris,
1. How does the RFI scenario for bidding work in SAP Bidding Engine? What would the config look like for the transaction type and what would the suppliers response be?
In SRM, you can use the same bid invitations for RFI and RFQ. The process is same. Price can be kept optional in RFI. In the first round of bidding i.e. RFI, yuo can specify dynamic attributes and weighting feature to gather the information from bidders and evaluate respnses.
For accepted bidders from the first round, you can create a follow-on bid invitation for RFQ. Here you can track the history of preceding documents.
The other way is to create two different transaction types for RFI and RFQ. Ensure that you select "No price" option for Indicator: "Detailed Price Info to be Entered in Bid" in the transaction type definitation.
2. How does the RFP scenario for bidding work in SAP Bidding Engine? What would the config look like for the transaction type and what would the suppliers response be?
Pls follow below URL for more details on biding process:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm50/helpdata/en/61/c3833cfa3dbc2ce10000000a114027/frameset.htm
3. Does the cFolders collabortation allow back and forth processing between supplier and purchasing team to enable the supplier to post questions that need answering as part of an RFP process?
Yes. It does allow sharing and processing of documents in C-folders during bidding between purchasers and bidders. For scenario details pls follow below link:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm50/helpdata/en/61/c3833cfa3dbc2ce10000000a114027/frameset.htm
Regards,
Prashant
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Not All RFx Data Extracted to "0BBP_BID" ODS (SRM - Bidding Engine)

Hi Expert,
I'm now working on an SRM Reporting in SAP BW especially Bidding Engine Reporting. I have installed the Business Content of Bidding Engine and do extraction to the InfoProviders.
The problem is at ODS "0BBP_BID" not all RFx or Bid Invitations data extracted. After I investigate the issue I found out that the data that not extracted is the data with Process Type (RFx Type) Z* (User Defined).
Is there any setting that I have to do so the Process Type "Z*" can be extracted to the ODS?
Please help and give us some solution.
Thanks,
Gilang

John
First of all with out having user ID and password it is not possible for bidders to enter SRM system to submit bids. So Business partners have to be created in SRM with contact person(Bidder) details.
You can try one thing. It is just my thought and I dont know how far it will be viable. I never tried.
Create a dummy business partner(vendor) in SRM and create many contact persons ie one for each vendor with their ID/password and email address. Then select all vendors(like receiving multiple bids from same vendor) and send the bid invitation.
Bidders will login and submit the bids. Then buyer will see the bids from all vendors (actually from one vendor but with different contact persons).
Then buyer can decide on the winning bid and then create a business partner for the winning bid and continue with the purchase activities.
With this you can avoid creating many business partners at the time of creating bid invitations.
Other alternative is, if you dont want to create ID and passwords for Bidders then send tender details to all vendors off line via e-mail and ask them to send the price to Buyer offline.
Regards
Jagdish

SRM 4.0 - Upload function of Bid Invitations (Bidding Engine)

Hello,
I am currently working on the Bidding Engine in SRM 4.0
I would very much like to use the Download/Upload function in Bid Invitations, but for now I have the feeling it doesnt work.
I tested it by downloading a Bid Invitation and changing just one info like an item quantity or description. I put U (for Update) in the corresponding cell of the Change column. I also held the bid invitation in SRM before returning to it to upload the modified Excel-file.
When I upload the Excel file, I dont have any error messages, but no changes are done either.
Does anyone of you have an idea how I could make it work?
Thanks!
Andrea

Hi,
Please do the following things.
Excel updown/download is very flexible functionality.
(BADI : BBP_PD_DOWNLOAD)
1. You can change the format (how the document should be downloaded, which fields : Control variants in BBPC_UP_DOWNLOAD table)
2. You can also upload file (your own format : implement parsing method)
3. You can add your own fields. (APPEND_UPLOAD_DATA)
We are working on one such scenario for Contract Upload.
You can also check the following notes.
There is a SAP Note on downloading BID file.
Note 734060 - SRM: Upload and download of documents using MS Excel
They have given one example in this note.This is a consulting note,you will find it
Two more notes which can help you
734060
734946
I hope it will help.
BR,
Vijay Mittal
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Supplier Collaboration with SRM Bidding Engine

Hi All,
I'm looking at the SAP BIdding Engine with regards to supplier collaboration in the bidding process, my undertsanding is that SUS can be used for a single point of access for suppliers to submit their bids. I also understand that cFolders can be used to allow true collaboration in the bidding process i.e. review of bid, submit prices etc.
I have four questions around these scenarios
1. For collaboration in the sourcing process which is superior cFolders integration or SUS?
2. What is the advantages of SUS over cFolders in the sourcing process.
3. Could you use both products?
4. Can cFolders be used to pose questions from the supplier? i.e. a true sourcing process would usually be:
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Cheers
Chris

1. Both has diff purposes. C-folder purpose is information exchange in terms of drgs, attachments, discussion etc.
so kind of technical exchange
whereas SUS forms common window for suppliers for collaberating with buyer co. for BI they can submit the price & conditions.
So kind of commercial exchange.
Superiority depends on the perspective
2. SUS you can use for odercollaberation also
i.e. for PO/SA from MM or EBP ,suppliers can
send responce
send ASN
post confirmation
post invoice
3. Yes
BR
Dinesh

SRM Bidding Engine and Sourcing Cockpit

Hi All,
can the SRM Bidding Engine be linked to the sourcing cockpit when using the classic scenario?
What I want to be able to do is to create an RFX from a shopping cart in the sourcing cockpit. We use the classic sceanrio currently on SRM 4.
Cheers
Chris

Hi Chris,
yes, the bidding and auction functionality is directly connected to the Sourcing Cockpit in Classic Scenario. That is standard. In order to be able to create a classic PO from Bidding / Auction, all you need is a shopping cart, you describe you have.
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Bidding Engine / Cfolders available after SRM 5.0 upgrade??

Hi Experts
Recently we upgraded from EBP 3.5 to SRM 5.0(SRM Server 5.5), we only have the ABAP stack & no Java stack.Our users have suggested to use the "bidding engine" & Cfolders, so what I want to know is
a) Is bidding Engine / Cfolders installed by default during the SRM 5.0 upgrade?.
b) Is Bidding Engine part of Live Auction Cockpit(LAC) & we need to install the LAC separately?.
c) Do I need to install the Java stack for the bidding engine & cfolders?.
An early reply will be much appreciated & useful replies will be rewarded with points.
Thanks & Rgds,
Abhishek

Hi Abhishek,
a. Bidding Engine is part of SRM server and there for use when SRM Server is installed. You are ready to go, customize and use. cFolders are part of cProject Suite and need to be extra installed.
b. LAC is an own component supporting the auction and need to be extra installed. This is also Java based, why you need the Java Stack here.
c. no, Bidding Engine and cFolders are both abap based.
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Clauda

How to find Bidding engine installed.....???

Hi
Got a basic doubt to know on how to find a Bidding engine is installed and licenced by seeing the config in the server.
Is there any config to find this?
Because I can see the links "Create Bid invitation", "Process bids", etc, even without Bidding engine licence.
Please correct me if I am wrong..
Thanks in advance
Jagdish

Christophe
Thanks a lot for your help.
That means even without a Bidding engine license, one can create Bid invitation but cannot publish it. In that case if any one try to publish the Bid invitation then a mail will not be sent to vendor to respond to the bid.
Am I correct? If not please correct me.
Why I am asking this is, I was asked to check if bidding is installed on a SRM server as they want to check the bidding functionality. After checking, I noticed that someone played with that Dev box and created some Bid Invitations from Sourcing cockpit and all bids are in Held status. But I could not find "Process Bid Invitations" link in Purchaser menu. That could be because of not adjusting the menu for Purchaser role. I did not check in depth.
Also client wants to create Bid invitation manually without SC. For this "Process Bid Invitations" link is necessary through which a manual Bid invitation can be created.So I got a doubt whether Bidding is Licensed. If so what is the indication.
Can you tell me what part of bidding functionality that I cannot perform without Bidding license.
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Jagdish

Urgent - Bidding Engine Start Conditions

Hi all,
i try to set up the Bidding Engine process.
I have a problem with the start condition of the Workflow.
It doesn´t work.
I set up WF - without approval
WS14500026 CHANGEVERSIONSAVED
WS14500026 SAVED
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I always get an error message
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What can i do?
Thx
Ralf

Most of the times SRM returns message "Approval workflow is ambiguous"
if it finds two workflows activated contradicting each other
e.g. Approval not required (auto approval)
and one step approval of Bid
Please check if you have any such cases in SWB_COND
BR
Dinesh

Use of SUS with bidding Engine

Dear all,
I want to use the BBPSC18 for request services (external labour). Then I want to use the bidding engine to create bid invitation from sourcing cockpit. From this point I have some questions
- I read it is not necessary to use SUS for this process. In that case what are the possibilities to sent the bid invitation to the supplier and for them to react on it?
- What are the arguments in favor / against the use of SUS?
- Does anyone what time / cost implications there are for the use of SUS?
We are running on SRM 5.0 / ECC 6.0
Kind regards,
Arie Ruitenbeek

Hi,
If you are using request for external labour, then a bid invitation is automatically created as follow on document. You can add service agents in SRM system.
You can have two service prcurement business scenarios in sap srm.
1. service procurement with loose supplier integration
2. service procurement with closed supplier integration
In loose integration, you procure services using supplier catalogs and dont need any SUS. check the below link
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm50/helpdata/en/6e/1f311d7d73574c8db7525ffffa9746/frameset.htm
SUS is required if you want self entry of confirmation and invoices for suppliers. This saves time and cost on the part of buying company.
Regards,
Sanjeev

Bidding Engine

Hello Everyone,
Can somebody tell me the basic configuration guide to configure a bidding engine in SRM?
Regards,
Khushbu.

Hi,
It will be difficult to explain in a forum post. Giving few references here:
1. Check someone who knows Solution Manager in your organization. You can download Scenario specific configuration (in your case, Strategic Sourcing with RFx) based on SRM version you have.
2) Attend SRM 210 training in your nearest SAP training center.
3) You can also buy a book "Consultant's Guide to SAP SRM" which explains Processes, configuration & other tips for consultants for SRM scenarios. Try Amazon website to buy this.
Best regards,
Ramki

Bidding Engine - Bids waiting in "Awaiting approval" status

Hello SRM Gurus,
We have SRM 5.0 bidding engine implemented. We have been using bid invitation for about 6 months now. For the last couple weeks we are having an issue where the bid invitations is stuck in "Awaiting Approval" status. We are not using any approval process.
I would appreicate it if any one could help me with resolving this issues.
Thank you very much

Thank you for your response.
No, the problem is that we are not able to even able to publish the Bid Invitation. Our buyers are creating the Bid invitation and put it in hold for adding additional information at a later time. When they come back to publish it - it says bid invitation is already in approval process and does not allow them to publish it.
Hope this info helps, Let me know if you need additional information.

Bid engine

Hi experts
I am configuring the strtegic sourcing and shopping carts not complete I can see in Carry Out Sourcing, but I have some doudts:
What is Submit to Grouping ?
What is the action of the system if I clic 'Propose Sources of Supply '?
What roles the user need to have to create bids and live auctions out of the transaction Carry Out Sourcing?
Thanks
Nilson

Hi
SAP Bidding Engine is part of the solution mySAP Supplier Relationship Management.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm50/helpdata/en/56/c34e3c59bfe747e10000000a11402f/frameset.htm
Purchasers can use SAP Bidding Engine to create and process bid invitations and live auctions for products and services. Bidders can use SAP Bidding Engine to submit bids in response to these bid invitations and auctions.
You can make SAP Bidding Engine available for the following composite roles:
· Purchaser
· Operational purchaser
· Strategic purchaser
· Purchasing assistant
· Bidder
Role assignment is not delivered. To incorporate SAP Bidding Engine into the side menu, you need to adjust the roles. See Adjusting Roles in SAP Solution Manager under Configuration -> mySAP SRM 5.0 -> Basic Settings for Strategic Sourcing -> Organizational Configuration -> Adjusting Roles.
Important links to check out ->
Creating Bid (Manually, from requirements, in the application Carry Out Sourcing)
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm50/helpdata/en/5a/4cc5376848616ae10000009b38f889/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm50/helpdata/en/d9/cbd33b8dca2c43e10000000a114084/frameset.htm
SAP Bidding Engine
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm50/helpdata/en/5a/4cc5376848616ae10000009b38f889/frameset.htm
Live Auctions
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm50/helpdata/en/77/ff7f4147581a09e10000000a155106/frameset.htm
Logging On and Requesting Users http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm50/helpdata/en/f7/2df2377a044c16e10000009b38f8cf/frameset.htm
Do let me know.
Regards
- Atul

Bidding Engine in Classic Scenario

We are implementing SRM7 with Bidding Engine. According to this forum it is possible now to use Direct Procurement (Plan-Driven Procurement) in both Classic and Extended Classic scenario.
However, according to SAP, Bidding Engine can only be used in Extended Classic scenario - is this correct? Can someone please confirm as we are looking to use a Classic Scenario with Direct Procurement and Bidding Engine. Requirement is to have both Project procurement (requisitions from ERP) and shopping cart in SRM, going to Sourcing (RFQ/Bid), and creating the leading PO in ERP, not SRM.

Hello Monica
Bidding is possible both in Classic and Extended classic deployements
As of SRM7.0, you can directcly route the PRs (projects/MRP) from ECC to create a RFx in Bidding Engine. You will need activate the relevant SOA service and a BADI to be activated.
Following information may helps you
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Implementing BaDI for RFQ Request SUITE Request
In order to use the SOA RFQRequestSUITERequest message, you have to
implement the BaDI named BBP_EBPXML_OUT_BADI. Please create a BaDI
implementation for the interface: REQUESTFORQUOTE with the following
code:
METHOD if_ex_bbp_ebpxml_out_badi~requestforquote.
use SOA system type to get the SOA interface
from bbp_function_map.
cv_system_type = 'ESASAPXML1'.
ENDMETHOD.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Thanks
Kiran

Bidding Engine Licence

Hi ,
We are installing SRM 5.0 version. I like to know that we need to purchase separate Licence for Bidding Engines or they comes as a part of SRM.
Regards,
Lovkesh

Hi,
Pls see the foll thread for more details:
Re: Licensing information
Re: How to find Bidding engine installed.....???
BR,
Disha.
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Bidding process in SRM WITHOUT bidding engine

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