Big POST issue with MSI B85M-P33

Hi guys, I've recently had a huge problem, my system cannot POST at all and it's been driving me insane.
I've tried to get into the BIOS but I can't get anywhere at all, I've used onboard VGA and DVI to get a display on the monitor neither worked, installed my GPU using HDMI and DVI on my monitor, "no signal" my monitor says.
I've took everything out and re installed everything, took the RAM out and replaced it in a different dim, didn't work so then I tried it with no RAM at all and couldn't even get a BEEP code for any indication for what to do next.
Tried 2 hard drives from work that have Windows 7 on (Samsung and Seagate).
I've cleared the CMOS and left it for 30 seconds and re-installed it hoping for a reason, nothing.
I'm really banging my head against the wall as I'm out of ideas and can't get any indication for what I'm doing wrong.
Any help is massively appreciated.
Thanks
i3 4150
Stock CPU Fan
4GB Corsair Vengeance
MSI B85M-P33
Zotac GTX 660
Corsair CS650M
TPLink Wireless Card

Quote from: jmckevitt on 04-July-14, 20:18:52
my system cannot POST at all and it's been driving me insane.
i3 4150
That processor is supported starting with BIOS v4.6
http://www.msi.com/support/mb/B85MP33.html#down-bios
You need to borrow a more "popular" CPU, be sure the system is rock stable and update the BIOS (to v4.7).
Good luck.

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Freezing issues with MSI 970A-G43 and AMD FX 8320

Hey all,
I bought my brother a new system a few days ago, but he has had serious issues with the machine crashing ever since.
The machine has had a fresh installation of Windows 7, it has all the latest drivers for both motherboard, sound, chipset and video card (Latest VGA driver tested as well as the latest Beta version)
I thought the problem might be with the VGA card, as the computer would just shut off during 3d Gaming, but it also seems to happen when surfing the internet or doing normal "2d" activities
What happens is the computer will just seemingly shut off, the LED lights on the front of the case, around the dials, start blinking and the only way to get it back up again, is to turn if off at the power supply unit and then turn it back on again.
I'll paste in what my brother sent me (As I live in the UK and can't see the machine crashing myself), he said:
I dunno what the issue is but, last night the comp just shut off in middle of game play on 3 different games, and the lights were flashing, I had to turn complete power off to the power box and back on to restart comp, I kept checking all my temps with speccy and speed fan and nothing seemed high at all, also when it shuts off and I re start it, a lot of my desktop icons move around to different spots,
Update: crashed a few times on me, once playing euro, once just browsing Internet 5 min after the first one, changed out ram just for shots and giggles and ran euro on ultra for about 5 min and crashed. I dl a gpu monitor gadget, was accurate on temp but said the gpu was 0% but with just Internet would randomly jump to 99% or 40% then back to 0 and would stay and eventually crash
Spec is:
AMD FX-8320 3.5GHZ EIGHT CORE
500GB SATA III 6GB/S 7200RPM 16MB
COOLERMASTER SEIDON 120M WATER COOLER
4Gb DDR3 / 1600 MHZ MEMORY
MSI 970A-G43 AMD 970 CROSSFIRE AM3+ DDR3 USB 3.0 SATA
CORSAIR 500 WATTS CX500 V2 80 PLUS POWER SUPPLY
ASUS XONAR DG 5.1 CHANNELS PCI XONAR DG SOUND CARD
AMD RADEON 7750 2GB PCI-E
There was a concern I did have when I did search earlier, via a thread on Tomshardware in which a similiar board had issues with the FX8350's wattage going above the stated 125 watts and causing the board to freeze.
It's a different board/chip, but I wonder if the wattage of the CPU goes above 125W and causes problems on the board? Hmm
I feel really guilty right now, because I bought this for him as a present, it was $700ish plus shipping etc and it's been nothing but problems ever since.
I'm going to see what version of Bios he's running when he gets out of bed, but the Live Update software said there were no updates, but I'll have him check manually.
Another issue I noted, was I sent him some ram before the PC arrived, which was:
XMS3 — 8GB Dual Channel DDR3 Memory Kit (CMX8GX3M2A1333C9)
He originally put that ram in with the existing 4gb of ram, so I thought it "Might" be a conflict, due to them having a different Mhz value
So I had him remove the 4gb stick that came with the PC
As soon as he entered the bios, it froze and did so twice
So he removed that ram and put back the original 4gb stick and the bios worked
No idea if the two are related.

I hope this doesn't count as necro-ing a thread (last post was in October), but it's the one closest to my situation.
I have the following setup:
MSI 970a-g43 motherboard
AMD FX-6300 cpu
ATI Radeon HD 4550 graphics card
4x 2GB RAM sticks
2x 500 GB 3.5" SATA hard drives
CoolMax 700W psu
16x r/rw DVD burner
cheapo SD and others card reader that fits in the floppy drive bay
Older PC tower that has a temperature sensor built into it
I built it around November 15th, and it worked until a couple days ago (December 12th I think), when it started doing the sudden shut-off thing. Same as Adresch described: shuts off, tower light blinks, have to flip the i/o switch off and back on to boot again. I consulted a friend for some suggestions, and he said I should put a water cooler in there, because the stock heatsink that comes with most processors are junk. So I went out and bought a Corsair H55 water cooler and installed that.
The computer seemed to run for a bit longer before shutting off. I loaded up the BIOS software, SpeedFan, and HWMonitor. SF said the CPU was running average of 48*C, and GPU was averaging 51*C. The CPU's highest was at 61*C and its lowest was 36*C. BIOS software said CPU was at 35*C the whole time. HWMonitor listed the GPU at 51*C, and the CPU at 7*C. These are all very inconsistent with each other as far as I can tell, so I don't know what to make of these readings. Didn't seem to much matter as the computer continued shutting off.
My options then being replacing the PSU or the motherboard, I decided to replace the power supply, since I was just within the 30 days. Switched for a ThermalTake TR2 700W. Before installing it, I pulled the tower's CPU temperature sensor wire from between the water cooler heatsink and the CPU, just in case. Then I installed the PSU, checked and rechecked all of the connections, and turned it on.
Nothing.
I then spent the next two hours rechecking everything, even unplugging everything and putting it back together. Still nothing. The best I could get was a flicker of the tower light and the fans doing a quarter turn before ceasing movement. The red LED on the front of the SD card reader stayed on the entire time, though, so I guess it was getting at least a trickle of power. I also removed everything but the PSU, motherboard, CPU, and one stick of RAM. Still no power. I think the new PSU may have been open box, so I'm returning it today for a different one, and even bumping it up to 850W.
I'm not sure that will solve my original issue though, so I'll be looking for a heatsink to put on the VRMS as mentioned. Just thought I'd get this down in a relevant thread in case anyone had other thoughts on what could be going on.

Very serious issue with MSI K8N Neo2-FX: need urgent help!

Hi! I am facing the following problems:
1. 3D Mark 05 demo, COD2 single player and Half Life 2 become semi-frozen.
2. The audio loops, and audio & video go out of sync.
3.VPU Recover/Infinite loop issue DOES NOT kick in.
4. The semi frozen game responds poorly to mouse movement.
Note: All redundant processes and programs in Windows XP are closed. My system specs:
Athlon 64 3000+ E6
256 mb ddr333 kingston valueram + 256 mb ddr400 kingston valueram=512 mb ddr333 total memory running in dual channel mode @ 2.5-3-3-7 (RAM is OK, worked fine on my previous system)
MSI K8N Neo2-FX bios version 1.B0(latest) chipset: nforce 3 250gb http://www.msi.com.tw/program/produc...il.php?UID=649
gigabyte radeon 9600XT BIOS Part Number BK-ATI VER008.015.058.000 (Card stable at 1.6 V AGP, 1.5 V gave me VPU Recover; Card ran fine on my previous system)
Realtek ALC 850 onboard audio
Antec SL 450 450 watt PSU (new, voltages ok) latest drivers/bios/firmware for everything Windows XP Pro SP2 + all updates. Please help.

Quote from: Richard on 03-May-06, 08:40:18
bhanja_trinanjan,
If you can get 2.3.3.6 Mushkin, OCZ, or Corsair, then you would be the set.
PC-3200 or higher would be the way to go. If you ever plan on overclocking, then PC-4000 is the best option.
Take Care,
Richard
Thanks for your help. I am trying to locate Corsair dealers in Kolkata(My hometown). Are there any known issues with the K8N Neo 2 FX? I bought this motherboard just a few days back and I am facing so many problems.
Does this motherboard undervolt the AGP and RAM slots? Will I have to increase AGP and DDR voltage to make my system stable? Doesn't the raising of these voltages shorten the life of the video card and ram modules? I want to buy Corsair/OCZ/Mushkin. But in case it's unavailable, will Kingston RAM lead to an unstable system?

Issues with MSI FX5600 cards

In my part time i build computers from a small buisiness i started while in university.
I have several issues concerning the new MSI FX5600 Cards, that have not been completely answered in any post that i have read here in the forums or in the poor FAQ section of the MSI website.
These cards have been around long enough now that MSI should start taking Customer service into consideration and start answering some of these issues that many have mentioned and have yet to get an answer to.
The first Set are Hardware related. Second are Software.
HARDWARE#1 First off is the poor construction of the heatsink/fan assembly on these cards, the one im using now, along with pretty much every one i have seen has large gaps between the RAM chips and the heatsink ( well its not really a heatsink more like a heat spreader plate).
The solution given in this forum is for the consumer to do the work of assembler himself (thats pathetic). So i guess MSI should stamp "some assembly required on their boxes and drop the price some $50 for the time it takes a user to repair this problem.
MSI should hire some good assembly people at your factories! I have installed many cards over the years and by far this is the worst heatsink assembly i have seen, which is quite obviously due to MSI using cheap labour done at a rapid rate.
Or just abandon this one heat spreader plate idea and paste individual passive heatsinks on each ram chip, like Asus and many others do.
And best idea yet is to Recall all your cards and offer everyone a decent heatsink solution to replace this poor design.
HARDWARE#2 Why is there no temperature monitoring on these FX cards? Simple question however i have yet to see an answer. Will there be in the future, or is there no temperature monitoring due to lack of a hardware, or do we all have to go buy thermocouples and connect them to our heatsinks, if we want to know the temp of our cards. Given the above #1 it would also be good to know the temp of the RAM given that many of the chips have no heatsink at all connected to them.
HARDWARE#3 The unit that plugs into the back of the VIVO cards never quite stay plugged in well and are so short that due to a lack of slack in the cable weight put on it by pluging in other cables tends to cause the whole unit to become unplugged. Why not just make that cable a litle bit longer?
HARDWARE#4 (related to above vivo connector unit) why use a (infra red )IR reciever connected to the video card? Why not just supply a seperate ir reciever and have that connected to a USB port or somthing else. Does it really make sense to have IR using the AGP resources? Also the quality of the ir reciever is absolutely the cheapest i have ever seen, and is awkward to place in any usefull position without using tape to stick it it to somthing.
Hardware#5 Cheap Remote control. Lots of buttons on it however most are really useless, and dont work anyways.
Instead of providing these remotes free with the cards, make a good remote remote control that uses RF (radio frequencies) instead of the awfull IR, and that can actually controll common software that people would normally use, or that ships with operating systems like media player etc.. Also why not have it also act as a second mouse like other manufacturers do?
SOFTWARE #1 Lets start off with the IR software or driver, I have used several other IR recievers/software that work perfect within windows. HOWEVER MSI has the absolute worst i have ever seen. The memory leaks everyone has is a perfect example of how poor their IR hardware/software work together. Will you be providing some new drivers to fix this? Or was providing a remote control just a gimmick to try and capture a few early customers?
SOFTWARE #2 the media center is so awfull, due to many reasons here are some.
a) for many people it wont even work to begin with
b) the resolution and more importantly Refresh rate ( 60hz ) is just plain stupid. ( i dont know anyone who can stand looking at a 60hz refresh rate for more then a few min without getting a headache).
c) use of remote control is full of bugs and is limited to this software alone.
d) i have yet to find any way of even adding pictures or other media files to the lists (not that i really care) this just points out the poor user interface.
I could go on about how bad it is, but i wont.
I recommend that MSI re-think their media centre and just get rid of it all together and start from scratch on somthing new. Try looking at what competitors such as ati's software and even Nvidia have as thier media centres. Also just dont use Intervideo's WinDVD and do like Asus and go with Cyberlinks PowerDVD.
c) lack of any monitoring software for video chip or ram heat status. This is related to the hardware comment #2
d) 11 cd's software bundell. Who cares why do you guys hype this if its basically 11 cds of old games that dont even use direct x9 capabilites of the card, or apps that i would question if anyone would even use. Most would prefer a drop in price versus having this large cd set.
Well that is it for now. Normally i would get paid for my ideas and suggestions where i work full time as a product development technologist, But this short list I provide freely hoping that MSI get their act together and make a better product. There is lots of potential there however it would require much more in terms of fixing these bugs that really reduce customer satisfaction and thus reduce sales especially in the customer recommendation sales.
Two last comments not related to the cards:
i) The packaging. is it really necessary to pay for the extra ink to put colorfull images within the inside of the box? could you not use that extra money saved and put it into either hiring better assemblers or making wires a little longer etc..?
ii) There is nothing mentioned in the manual concerning the Remote control its use or that of the media center.
It would now be nice if MSI would plese answer some of the above questions and sittuations and create a new FAQ for this card and have it available within the FAQ section of their website.
Thank you for reading this post.
hope for some improvements soon

I echo these words too. :O

Microphone issue with MSI Z97 GAMING 5

Hi there!.
I have just set up my new computer and i have problems with my microphone. My mainboard is a "MSI Z97 GAMING 5" and my box: NOX Coolbay SX.
I have installed the drivers from disk and tryed also searching drivers on the web of MSI. I can hear with my speakers with no problems, same with my headset. But there is no way to use my microphone. I put it in the front panel, then i checked the control panel - sound and Windows tell me that the microphone is connected, but dont work. if i put it in the back panel, the realtek HD administrator tell me that something is connected in the microphone slot but WIndows dont detect it.
in the BIOS, the HD Audio is ENABLED. I dont have any idea about what to do now. I have search on this forum but i havent seen this same issue. Can you help me?
Thanks and sorry about my english.

ill post my specifications
Board: MSI Z97 GAMING 5
Bios: Version 1.0
VGA: MSI GeForce GTX 760 Twin Frozr OC 2GB GDDR5
PSU: Nox Urano VX 750W PFC
Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4Ghz Box 1150
MEM: G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 1600 PC3-12800 8GB 2x4GB CL9
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 1TB SATA3
COOLER: Katana 4
OS: Windows 7 64bit Professional

Also got an issue with MSI command center, maybe windows is to blame?

MSI Command Center crashes every time after it's been running a little while, googling it I've noticed there have been a lot of topics about it crashing. I think someone here on this forum suggested reinstalling windows might help :/ Not too keen on that but better now than when I've installed a ton of stuff on the PC.
Actually both MSI command center and Intel extreme tuning utility crash for me. MSI command center crashes after a while it's been running and Intel extreme tuning utility crashes every time I click on the settings menu.
I wonder if something is still wrong with my OS, first time I installed windows 8.1 games crashed if they ran in fullscreen but ran fine in windowed mode. Later after reinstalling widows games started working fine, in fact I haven't had any crashes since (other than from these 2 programs).
Just yesterday I decided to make a bootable USB drive for windows 8.1 and I noticed that my PCcouldn't actually create an ISO from the windows CD cause the DVD drive couldn't read it properly no matter how many times I tried. My other PC managed to read the Windows DVD just fine, so managed to make a bootable USB drive after all. Donno how it managed to install windows at all, it did struggle a bit.
I wonder if doing a repair install or a completely fresh install of Windows now when my PC can actually read the windows installation media properly would fix these last issues.
Is there a difference between a clean install of windows and an install where it keeps all settings and programs? Think reinstalling windows a 3rd time would help (3rd time is the charm right?) Think reinstalling windows again would help?
Application: CommandCenter.exe
Framework Version: v4.0.30319
Description: The process was terminated due to an unhandled exception.
Exception Info: System.ArgumentOutOfRangeException
Stack:
at System.ThrowHelper.ThrowArgumentOutOfRa ngeException()
at CommandCenter.Toolkit.CPUFrequency.<Timer_AnimationShowHW>b__0()
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapp er.InternalRealCall(System.Delegate, System.Object, Int32)
at MS.Internal.Threading.ExceptionFilterHe lper.TryCatchWhen(System.Object, System.Delegate, System.Object, Int32, System.Delegate)
at System.Windows.Threading.DispatcherOper ation.InvokeImpl()
at System.Windows.Threading.DispatcherOper ation.InvokeInSecurityContext(System.Object)
at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.RunIn ternal(System.Threading.ExecutionContext, System.Threading.ContextCallback, System.Object, Boolean)
at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(System.Threading.ExecutionContext, System.Threading.ContextCallback, System.Object, Boolean)
at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(System.Threading.ExecutionContext, System.Threading.ContextCallback, System.Object)
at System.Windows.Threading.DispatcherOper ation.Invoke()
at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.Pro cessQueue()
at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.Wnd ProcHook(IntPtr, Int32, IntPtr, IntPtr, Boolean ByRef)
at MS.Win32.HwndWrapper.WndProc(IntPtr, Int32, IntPtr, IntPtr, Boolean ByRef)
at MS.Win32.HwndSubclass.DispatcherCallbac kOperation(System.Object)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapp er.InternalRealCall(System.Delegate, System.Object, Int32)
at MS.Internal.Threading.ExceptionFilterHe lper.TryCatchWhen(System.Object, System.Delegate, System.Object, Int32, System.Delegate)
at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.Leg acyInvokeImpl(System.Windows.Threading.DispatcherPrio rity, System.TimeSpan, System.Delegate, System.Object, Int32)
at MS.Win32.HwndSubclass.SubclassWndProc(IntPtr, Int32, IntPtr, IntPtr)
at MS.Win32.UnsafeNativeMethods.DispatchMe ssage(System.Windows.Interop.MSG ByRef)
at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.Pus hFrameImpl(System.Windows.Threading.DispatcherFram e)
at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.Pus hFrame(System.Windows.Threading.DispatcherFram e)
at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.Run()
at System.Windows.Application.RunDispatche r(System.Object)
at System.Windows.Application.RunInternal(System.Windows.Window)
at System.Windows.Application.Run(System.Windows.Window)
at CommandCenter.App.Main()
Faulting application name: CommandCenter.exe, version: 1.0.0.82, time stamp: 0x542c7911
Faulting module name: KERNELBASE.dll, version: 6.3.9600.17055, time stamp: 0x532943a3
Exception code: 0xe0434352
Fault offset: 0x00011d4d
Faulting process ID: 0x1764
Faulting application start time: 0x01cfe0e065a99cf3
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files (x86)\MSI\Command Center\CommandCenter.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\KERNELBASE.dll
Report ID: 6fe5aaa5-4cd6-11e4-8264-448a5b9f9b8d
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:

This issue isn't super important but I don't like programs crashing. None of the games I've played so far crash. (after I reinstalled windows once) Windows never crashes, and the PC has never crashed either so far.
Both MSI command center (version 1.0.0.82) and intel extreme tuning utility (version 5.1.0.23) crash. Both are kinda same type of programs it seems. MSI CC crashes sometimes immediately sometimes 15 minutes after I start it. The intel program crashes every time I click on the settings menu. MSI CC gives those errors when it crashes, the Intel program has no errors recorded in the event viewer when it crashes.
Board: MSI Z97 Gaming 5
Bios: Version 1.0 (Well that's what CPU-Z says it is)
VGA: MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4g
PSU: Asus 850W CP-850
Intel Core i5-4670K Haswell 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost)
MEM: Kingston HyperX Fury 1866Mhz DDR3
SSD: Crucial MX100 256Gb
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2Tb
COOLER: Noctua nh-d15
OC: Everything stock (for now)
OS: Windows 8.1 64bit
I tried reinstalling windows by keeping all applications and settings, that didn't help at all. I could still do a fresh windows 8.1 install and remove everything, still I'd rather avoid doing that if I can. Maybe I'll just ignore the errors. Perhaps it's something related to the motherboard since both are these sort of OCing software.

Issue with MSI 6600GT

I recently bought an MSI 6600GT for my system. My system is a AMD Athlon 64 3000, MSI RS480M2 motherboard, 2x 512MB RAM, Enermax 365 PS, UATA 133 HD, and Hauppage MCE150 PVR. I had previously been using the builtin video (now disabled) with no issues. Ever since adding the MSI 6600GT I've have an issue where after playing a 3D game awhile (30-60 minutes generally) I'll get a total freeze or a BSOD complaining about nv4_disp.dll. I'm using the latest drivers from nVidia. Typically when playing the gpu temp is around 80-90C as reported by both speedfan and the display properties (which shows it as either green or barely yellow). It seems to be heat related; however, it doesn't appear over spec so I'm thinking the gpu is deffective in that it's way over sensitive to heat. I can't think of any other reason for this.

Quote from: cpenney on 13-May-05, 10:34:59
I recently bought an MSI 6600GT for my system. My system is a AMD Athlon 64 3000, MSI RS480M2 motherboard, 2x 512MB RAM, Enermax 365 PS, UATA 133 HD, and Hauppage MCE150 PVR. I had previously been using the builtin video (now disabled) with no issues. Ever since adding the MSI 6600GT I've have an issue where after playing a 3D game awhile (30-60 minutes generally) I'll get a total freeze or a BSOD complaining about nv4_disp.dll. I'm using the latest drivers from nVidia. Typically when playing the gpu temp is around 80-90C as reported by both speedfan and the display properties (which shows it as either green or barely yellow). It seems to be heat related; however, it doesn't appear over spec so I'm thinking the gpu is deffective in that it's way over sensitive to heat. I can't think of any other reason for this.
You can always try to install a new fan search the forums for info, also what psu do you have?

For those people that have a issue with MSI DVD that won't work right

I have an MSI K9 SLI Platium 7250 w/ an AMD Athlon X2 4600+ 2.4 GHz. I have MSIDVD that originaly came with my old Motherboard MS-680E AMD Atlon XP 1700+ 1.4GHz. When I upgraded MSIDVD wouldn't work right and every time I Would insert a a DVD MSIDVD would give a wierd error. But here a hint how to bypass. As long as you have MSIDVD installed you should be able to play DVD's through Windows Media Player without any problems, thats what I was able to do. Or if you still want to use MSIDVD, you need to download a program from AMD, here are the detales, I also done this too
The Program is called "AMD Dual-Core Optimizer"
The AMD Dual-Core Optimizer can help improve some PC gaming video performance by compensating for those applications that bypass the Windows API for timing by directly using the RDTSC (Read Time Stamp Counter) instruction. Applications that rely on RDTSC do not benefit from the logic in the operating system to properly account for the affect of power management mechanisms on the rate at which a processor core's
Time Stamp Counter (TSC) is incremented. The AMD Dual-Core Optimizer helps to correct the resulting video performance effects or other incorrect timing effects that these applications may experience on dual-core processor systems, by periodically adjusting the core time-stamp-counters, so that they are synchronized.
Heres the link http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_871_13118,00.html

OK, well - I installed Tiger back on a separate disk and will reboot into that when I want to watch a movie. Cheers, all.

Big Security Issues with WebCenter

I have some questions about security with webcenter:
1) can I hide and show the whole portlet according to the role of the user ?
2) how can I develop the dummy page definition to put some components in it, and apply security constrains on that portion differenet from the whole page definition constrains ?
3) the "Rendered" property of the component can be shown and hidden using the EL. But can I control every component alone depeneding on the authoriztion of the user on that control ? or all the component is depending on the same level of authorization?
please provide some explanation and not only URLs
thank you

I have some questions about security with webcenter:
1) can I hide and show the whole portlet according to
the role of the user ?You could do this in a number of ways
a) use the isrunnable method in your portlet code (role membership is passed at runtime to the provider)
b) Create a managed bean and track the role membership (isUserInRole) by using the just use EL to reference this bean in the rendered property of the portlet to return true or false (similar to method in developers guide, section 10.3)
c) use a dummy page def as mentioned below
2) how can I develop the dummy page definition to put
some components in it, and apply security constraints
on that portion different from the whole page
definition constrains ?From the developers guide "While there is a one-to-one relationship between the page definition file and the page you are securing, it is also possible to secure areas within a page (for example, a ShowOneTab) by using a headless (dummy) page definition file that represents a specific section of the page. This page definition is not actually tied to a physical page, but can still have a policy defined for it. As such, by defining view permission on this headless page definition, you can show and hide a section of a page by referencing the headless page definition rather than the actual page definition of a target page."
3) the "Rendered" property of the component can be
shown and hidden using the EL. But can I control
every component alone depeneding on the authoriztion
of the user on that control ? or all the component is
depending on the same level of authorization?
Not sure what you mean here, maybe it is explained in my answers above?
please provide some explanation and not only URLs
Please read Section 10 Securing Your WebCenter Application of the WebCenter Developers Guide (http://download-west.oracle.com/docs/cd/B32110_01/webcenter.1013/b31074/jpsdg_security.htm#CDDGCDAH) we put alot of effort into the documenation so we don't have to write massive answers to every post.
thank you

Possible issue with MSI Live Update 5

Hi guys, purchased a brand new MSI R9 280X Gaming 3G GPU from Scan.co.uk just before Christmas.
Whilst playing around with GPUz i happened to notice that my card appears to have had at least one new BIOS for it (possibly two) since release. I downloaded MSI Live Update 5 from your site and ran the tool however it reports my GPU BIOS Version as unknown and doesn't find any BIOS updates for my card.
Just wondering why this would be and if i can get a link to the latest BIOS and instructions on how to manually flash.
My system specs are as follows
AMD FX8350 @ 4.8Ghz 1.55v / Corsair H100 Cooler
ASUS Sabertooth R990FX R2.0
16GB Corsair Vengeance 1600Mhz CL9 @ 1866Mhz CL9,9,9,24-2T
MSI R9 280X Gaming 3G
2 x Sandisk Ultra 256GB SSDs in RAID 0
Fractal Design Define XL R2
If you need any further info please let me know. Thanks

First off this is a Users-to-Users Forum not MSI tech support if you wanted to address them. Don't use LU5 as it is quite buggy. You can't see if there are new vbios versions available as you can't compare gpu-z numbers or such. Different batches of the same model can use different vbios versions which have different (higher or lower) version numbers. A higher version number might be a different not newer vbios. To check your S/N and a copy of your current vbios is required.

Issue with MSI NX8600GTS

Emails to MSI's support email address are bouncing ATM...
I'm having a bit of a problem with the above card s/n
912-V801-2580704000842 not working in my Shuttle SS31T and I'm hoping
you can help.
This thread on the SFF Tech message board
http://www.sudhian.com/index.php?/forums/viewthread/97872/ gives the
full history.
Basically, there seems to be a problem with power to the graphics
card forcing the VRMs on the PC's PSU to complain. Loudly. I've also
tried a fanless 8600GTS s/n 602-V095-02SB0704081571 which gives the
same result. Both cards were purchased from Novatech recently. I've
tried two PSUs and two supplementary PSUs. I don't have another PC
with a PCI Express slot in which to try them, but I'm wondering if
you're aware of any incompatability between the SS31T and the
8600GTS. Has there been a bad batch of cards where the power
connector isn't working?

Sorry, but there is NO MSI to be found in here, as this is a user-to-user forum only.

OCZ2GB8004GK issue with MSI K9A2 CF

I am having lockup issues in Win7 64bit.
I have done PC-Check 6.21 and all 4 chips fail on Microtopology Test.
I have done Memtest86+ and failed on that also.
I have 2 sets of this memory. Seems if I run 1 set all is ok but when I put both sets in I randomly get Blue Screen dump and reboot. I have tried all combos with the slots and chips.
I am reading conflicting info. My MB supports 1.8v according to the manual. I picked these chips because they state 1.8v. But in forums and places I am seeing that they might need 2.1v?????????? or that 1.8v might be ok for 1 set (2 chips) but not for 2 sets (4 chips)????
All 4 tested fine with Memtest and PCCheck when single Installed.
Here is an atempt at a Test table for you.
CS1 = Chipset 1
CS2 = Chipset 2
DC1 = Dimm Channel 1
DC2 = Dimm Channel 2 or Socket if you prefer.
CS1 in DC1 = Tests Fine
CS1 in DC2 = Tests Fine
CS2 in DC1 = Tests Fine
CS2 in DC2 = Tests Fine
but
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CS2 and CS1 in DC1 and DC2 ( fliped ) = Test Fails everytime.
I Mixed them up and Fails.
Seems anytime all 4 chips installed it fails.
Now I had 2 other PC-6400 1G chips that I was using before these. I can put 1 set of OCZ in and then the other 2 1Gs and tests fine and works fine.
Any thoughts.
HELP... if this is not going to work simply I am needing to return these to the seller ASAP.
Thanks

Do >>Clear CMOS Guide<< with power cord removed.
Leave memory timings to Auto.
Make sure that 2T is used [Check it with CPU-Z]
If problem persist, apply memory voltage recommended by OCZ for your memory sticks in BIOS Setup.
Re-test

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we have an issue while performing FEBAposting , One fo the user exist is using thefield - VWEZW(Note to Payee ) from the table FEBRE . This has a data issue as a result of which we are getting a DUMP .
I suppose there is a standard transaction to modify the entries.
please advice if you are aware.
thanks
Raghu V

Hi Ryan,
Please check if you are getting any error like below in the logs.
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Regards,
Shweta,

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Hi, I'm having some sound problems with the onboard soundcard
The problem consist in LAGS when I play an mp3, I've tried a lot of drivers including the lastest version for alc850 from realtek but nothing!!!
I hope you can helpme
Thanks in advance

Quote from: dflw on 05-March-05, 06:11:17
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=29-102-178&depa=0
nice fix
yes I know, the ALC850 sux ....that's a good soundcard, probably my next upgrade
I miss the old good soundstorm, not the best to play games with eax but the sound quality was good

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