Billing document to COPA

Hi Friends,
With reference to the billing document one COPA document generated. But COPA document value is different from the billing.
please explain the logic behind this.
Thanks in advance

Hi
The differences do arise.
Go to COPA > Tools > Analyse Value Flows
Coming to the Logic:
Values in billing documents are assigned to condition types in SD, accounts in FI and value fields in CO-PA. This function shows you a list of the values posted in CO-PA value fields, along with those posted in FI (profit and loss accounts) and SD (condition types). It also shows any differences between the values in CO-PA and SD (Delta CO-PA/SD) and between SD and FI (Delta SD/FI). If there is a difference, you can drill down to the respective billing documents.
Statistical condition types (that do not lead to accrual postings) are marked as such and are included in the SD value. This makes it possible to compare the SD value with the CO-PA value. Since these condition types do not lead to FI postings, their values are not taken into account in the comparison between SD and FI. The delta between SD and FI therefore may not be the same as the actual difference between the SD and FI values.
Check the link for a detailed explanation:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/40/c52df80d1e11d2b5cf0000e82de856/content.htm
reg
suresh

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