Billing in Third Party Scenerio
Hi All,
I completed the complete cycle for third party process.While i am trying to do billing for Third Party Scenerio, i getting a warning message "No Billing quantity has been determined".If i ignore it, i am able to create the billing.But the issue is that we are using a user-exit in billing.Because of the above message, User-exit fails.I want to aviod the error. Please guide me.
With Regards
Vinu.N
This error occur b'coz of two possibilities:
1) Check your billing relevance in Item Cat (VOV7) in your THIRD PARTY process or sales order. It should be F.
2) IR - Invoice receipt (MIRO) should have been completed before you raise a sales invoice.
+If you don't want IR to happen before raising sales invoice, select a relevant Billing relevance for your process Item Cat. +
Hope this can assist you.
Thanks & Regards
JP
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Saravanan Sevuga perumalHello Saravanan,
Milestone billing means distributing the total amount to be billed over multiple billing
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01-10-94 Contract 10 10,000 - x x
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01-05-95 Acceptance 30 30,000 x x
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<b>**REWARD IF THIS HELPS**</b>
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My client is using ECC 6.0, were in there is a thirdparty scenerio for which once a sales order is created the generation of PR is done automatically by the system. With respect to this PR a PO is created for the same.
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Suppose a sales order is created with a line item having 100 quantity, for which a PR of 100 quantity is created automatically. Once the PR is created with respect to that PR a PO is created for the same 100 quantity. Now once that is done is there any standard setting available is SAP were the order quantity cannot be changes once a PO is generated
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Thanks & Regards,
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Once PO generated and done subsequent activities system will not allow you to change the qty in sales document. If you try to increase standard error message displays as " Schedule line is already ordered - you need to create a new schedule line".
Not required to make any changes.
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Edited by: Jagan Mohan on Mar 17, 2011 1:02 PM
Edited by: Jagan Mohan on Mar 17, 2011 1:05 PM -
Third Party Orders not appearing in billing due list. Item Cat billing rel 'F' & VTFA Billing Qty E
I had a requirement to do my customer billing for third party scenario before doing the invoice verification.
The solution that was proposed was to make the following changes,
In VOV7 (For TAS )item category the billing relevance should be (G) and
in the copy control VTFA at item level for item cat (TAS)maintain the billing qty(E).
http://scn.sap.com/thread/3522580
The problem I faced with the above config change was that nothing was appearing in the billing due list and when I tried to do a billing from the order directly, it would not let me.
Then I made the following change,
In VOV7 (For TAS )item category the billing relevance as (F) and
in the copy control VTFA at item level for item cat (TAS)maintained the billing qty(E).
Now after the MIGO is done based on the PO, the system allows me to do a customer billing from the SO before the invoice verification. But still this SO is still not appearing in the billing due list. Have any of you experts faced the same problem? How can I get this to appear in the billing due list? Or in other words, how do I identify open third party sales orders that are due for billing?
Thanks and regards
ES@ Joan, in that case invoice verification would now be necessary anymore right? In my case i need the invoice verification to happen...but at a later stage
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How can we stop the billing of the SP unless and untill the LIV has been done for po.
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A SIts std process of third party sales-
where w/o LIV, you cant create billing wrt: third party sales order.
This is controlled through Billing relevance -"F" in Item Category :TAS which is triggered in 3rd party sales order.
You need not do anything spl in Customizing-
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Create 3rd party sales order - after MIGO, then Create billing , system will not allow you to create. Because LIV has not done for this PO.
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