BIOS flash AMD 955 on 970A-G45
So, I can't figure out how to flash the BIOS. When I ran the flashing utility from a USB boot, the utility crashed and the M-Flash functionality in the BIOS doesn't work at all (fails to find the USB storage device even though the USB settings page sees it!).
I think I'm going to throw in the towel and RMA this board back to NewEgg and order a ASUS Sabertooth 990FX. It seems to be getting good reviews...
Split off, as the problem is a BIOS flash issue.
Gilgamesh82, Henry correctly pointed out that you should have started your own post.
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So, I can't figure out how to flash the BIOS
That seems to be your main concern.
Within the forum we only support a safe BIOS flashing method with the forum flasher. >>Use the MSI HQ Forum USB flasher<<
Had you started a post and enquired about that, instead of hijacking another thread, someone would have pointed you to the correct flasher immediately and your problem might have been solved by now.
Trust it may still assist you at least to attempt the flashing method.
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970A-G45 with latest Bios not read correctly By Amd Overdrive
System is as follows
Motherboard: 970A-G45 Bios is now 1.61 all have been tried
CPU: AMD FX 8120
Memory: AMD Performance Edition 1600MHz 8 gbyte
PSU Corsair GX600
problem is that AMD BEMP profiles are grayed out,With this processor and memory the BEMP profile should be available both AMD and Patriot the makers of the memory say the problem is the bios not being read correctly by AMD overdrive.Now how do we get a bios release that will be correctly read by AMD Overdrive.here are pics of cpu-z and AMD overdrive BEMP.
I used the instructions posted here but the image in the instructions doesn't show either
http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/6560/cpuz1x.jpg
http://imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&l=img651/1912/cpuz2j.jpg
http://imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&l=img41/2338/amdoverdrivebemp.jpg
ok the links work now had to resize imagesDoes AMD overdrive start and work on your system, besides the BEMP thing: yes!, so that is not the question or problem here.
Do you have the hardware components that are needed to support BEMP: NO!
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AMD Black Edition Memory Profile –feature is available with the following, validated memory modules:
Vendor: Part #: Supported CPU Models:
Corsair CMD4GX3M2B1600C8 965BE (C2), 955BE, 720BE
Corsair CM3X2G1600C6GT 965BE (C2), 955BE, 720BE
Corsair CMG4GX3M2A1600C6 965BE (C2), 955BE, 720BE
Corsair CMG4GX3M2B1600C7 965BE (C2), 955BE, 720BE
Mushkin 996657 965BE (C2), 955BE
Mushkin 996601 965BE (C2), 955BE
OCZ OCZ3BE1600LV2G 965BE (C3), 955BE
OCZ OCZ3BE1600C8LV2G 965BE (C3&C2), 955BE
Patriot PGS34G1600LLKA 965BE (C3&C2), 955BE
Patriot PGS34G1600ELKA 965BE (C3&C2), 955BE
Patriot PGS34G1333LLKA 965BE (C3&C2), 955BE
Patriot PGS34G1333ELKA 965BE (C3&C2), 955BE
In addition the system must meet the following requirements in order to enable the Black Edition Memory Profile feature:
790FX, 790GX or 790X AM3 motherboard with BEMP compatible BIOS revision
AMD Phenom™ II AM3 Black Edition CPU
In any case, this is a pointless discussions. I point to the specific parts on the AMD site that have to do with "BEMP" and you ignore that and point to AMD Overdrive stuff, which not necessarely includes BEMP support unless the hardware conditions are properly fullfilled.
Contact:
- AMD Support
- MSI Technical Support
... and Patriot support, this time mentioning that your neither have a "790FX, 790GX or 790X AM3 motherboard" nor an "AMD Phenom™ II AM3 Black Edition CPU". -
970A-G45 CPU BURNING UNDER BIOS
My CPU temp is jumping 60-65C from 35C under ONLY BIOS. Im using Win7 when system not on load temp around 35-40C, underload (playing BF3 multiplayer with high settings) 45-50C so there is no heat issues on normal use everything fine also my room has some heat issiues around 22-25C. I just updated bios from 1.3 to 1.4 than finally 1.5 2-3 days ago and i tried to check anything new on bios than i saw CPU temp getting higher so fast around 60C from 35C fan makes kinda tornada there with 5k rpm and disturbing noise after that i cleared fan put little Sunbeam Tuniq TX-2 but still same problem in bios. I didn't do any overclock i didn't use OC Genie 2 too. Everything on default or auto in bios. Also my core voltage in bios around 1.43 - 1.68 its not stable i read other posts about that people talking about Cool and Quiet option in bios but i couldnt find it Is there any solution?
So here is my system specs:
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 3.4 Ghz with original heat sink fan
MOBO: MSI 970A-G45 (bios 1.5)
RAM: GEIL Enhance Corsa 8 GB DDR3 1600 Dual Kit
GPU: MSI R6850 Cyclone 1GB DDR5 PE/OCQuote from: 5himmy on 02-April-12, 15:40:50
badboy2k i agree with you, results are same with Akasa Venom in windows overload with prime96 max 53C in bios 53C too and i want to ask that that cooler is so heavy do you think it has some potential to hurt mainboard in future?
as long as its mounted properly with a good back plate then no it shouldnt damage the board at all! motherboards with a decent weight distrabuting plate at the back wont be damaged as there multi layer/ plyed boards and as such very strong typically capable of supporting a weight of 40-70 Pounds per square inch around the cpu socket! anyway manufacturers of aftermarket coolers know what the maximum mounting weight is and make a cooler below that limit! -
990FXA-GD65 & 970A-g45 Bios Question-HPC
I have 2 systems with pretty close to the same bios Feature. My question is a quick one, and I hope a simple one?
What is HPC-I know it stands for High Performance Computing-I know that it has to do with the throttling, under load.
What is the exact reason for this? Why was it added to the bios? Is this just for FX cpu's
Looking for a quick rundown.
When enabling in Bios-with everything on default-do you just enable? Do you need to turn anything off-C & Q? or do you just turn in on and go?
System Spec-
990FXA-GD65 970A-G45
FX 8150 FX 6100
PCS+ 7870 GHZ 2 x GTX 550 ti SLI
G.skill Ripjaw X 1600 Low Cas G.Skill Ripjaw x 2133 running at 1600
H80i Waterloop H80I Waterloop
850w nzxt PSU 650 Nzxt PSU
HP - v300a 240GB SSD Western Digital SiliconEdge Blue 128 SSD
ZALMAN Z11 Plus Black Steel / Plastic COOLER MASTER Elite 430 RC
Asus DVD /RW Asus DVD RW
Should HPC be enable with the 2 computers along with all the STD setting in Bios
Thanks for your help guysHPC locks the multiplier for the CPU at maximum setting so it has no LAG when asked to do a demanding job as its already running at maximum performance levels and doesn't have to wait for the CPU to realize that it needs to up the clocks from idle clocks(powersaving mode) to high performance clocks!
if you want no delay in performance thats what HPC is for as it will hold the CPU at its full clocks all the time...
as for C & Q that should be disabled as it may interfere with HPC mode and continue trying to throttle the CPU to lower clocks and voltages! if C&Q is off just enable HPC and it should function properly! -
MSI 970A-G45 will not complete POST
Every so often, out of the blue, the system won't boot up.
Hitting reset doesn't help, disconnecting the power and letting it sit doesn't help.
The system powers on, begins it's POST, but after initializing the drives (HDD light flashes, CD ROM light comes on, goes off) it cycles again (right about the time it should initialize the video, it seems to loop back to the beginning of the POST - so I don't get any POST codes on the screen when this happens). It cycles through, initializes the drives again, and then starts over. IF however I pull either stick of RAM, it then will get past this, and continue on with the post. I can shut the system off as soon as I see the keyboard lights flash, re-insert the RAM, power up, and it's all back to normal. Resetting the CMOS does the same thing, but if I pull a RAM stick, then I don't have to set up the CMOS again. I have tried other RAM, but that didn't help. Any ideas?
Power Supply - CoolMax 600W - 5V24A, 3.3V24A, 12V1.8A+1.8A+15A, -12V.5A, 5VSB2.5A
Motherboard - MSI 970A-G45 model MS-7693, Bios V1.4
RAM - Transcend TX2000KLN-8GK DDR3 2000MHz 4G X 2 (8G kit) @ 1866MHz, 1.6V
AMD FX-8120 8 core processor @ 20 X 200MHz (4GHz)
ATI Radeon HD 6450 PCIe Video
2 X 500G Seagate SATA Hard Disk
500G Western Digital SATA Hard Disk
*****the 3 500G drives are in a striped RAID as a 1.5TB drive. This is the boot drive. RAID on motherboard. ***
1TB Western Digital Hard Disk
2TB Seagate SATA Hard Disk
2TB Western Digital SATA Hard Disk
LG SATA DVD Writer on MassCool card #1
LG PATA DVD Writer on MassCool card #1
Pioneer SATA Blu-Ray Writer on MassCool card #2
VIA 1394 Fire Wire card
2 X MassCool PCIe SATA/PATA/eSATA card
Adaptec 29320LPE PCIe Ultra 320 SCSI card (for U320 drives, not currently attached)
All-In-One USB card reader
Linksys Range Plus USB Wireless N 150 AdapterAgain, if it was the PSU, the board wouldn't "lock" in the looped state, and disconnecting all the drives would release it from any power induced failure if that was the issue, and as I posted before, disconnecting all the drives will not release the board from it's locked state. In my previous posts, I also stated that this failure happened before the system had all these drives in it. Another point, people have been underestimating power supplies for years - which is good for the manufacturers of high end power supplies, but bad news for our wallets. My power supply can support this system, plus about another 10 or more hard drives before things would get dodgy. This is something I have tested quite extensively since the late 80's when IBM PCs were still using 63W supplies, but everyone wanted a 150W in their "clones".
It should also be noted that the 5V and 12V rails are isolated from the voltages used by the processor and RAM. They aren't even connected to the same electrolytic capacitors.
in short, "If your car still rattles when the engine is off, the problem isn't the gas you are using!"
PS - thanks for the advice so far, but since it's happened with 2 different supplies and under much less load, we need to stop focusing on the power supply. For the record, I ran the numbers again, and under 60% load (which is triple the average load on this thing when not editing video) I could add 10 more high rpm SATA hard disks and still be drawing under 600W. Yes, hard disks draw a lot of short term power at spin up, but power supplies can supply well beyond their maximum rating for short periods of time, so it balances out!
While I am at it, I thought I'd let you all "meet the beast". -
Just did an upgrade to my PC.
Running the following:
MSI 970A-G45
Athlon Phenom X4 955 at Stock speeds(used from previous rig)
Corsair Vengeance 8GB PC12800 DDR3 1600MHz at Stock speeds(new)
XFX Radeon HD 6870 1GB GDDR5(new)
OCZ 120GB SOLID 3 SERIES SATA III 2.5 Hard Drive
Sony DVDRW 24x(used from previous rig)
BFG 550W PSU(used from previous rig)
Windows 7 64bit Ultimate
Here's the issue. Sometimes when I restart the PC, it never comes back up. It goes down like normal, then I have no video signal and it just sits there. It's doesn't happen all the time though, which is perplexing. When it does not come back up, I can simply hit the reset button and then it starts to boot up. Apparently it has all the latest BIOS and drivers according to MSI Live update. So at this point I have no idea what to try in order to get this thing to restart normally every time. I guess I shouldn't be too concerned considering I don't reboot a lot...?...?
P.S. I am not overclocking anything. Processor and RAM are running at stock speeds.
P.S.S. I do have two USB hard drives hooked up. Could one or both of them be causing the random reboot issue?
P.S.S.S. Although I mentioned the USB drives, I never had this reboot issue prior to upgrading to this motherboard, video card and ram.
THANKS!Hello,
Having the same issue with similar hardware. PC will boot cold and shutdown like it should but restarting most of the time causes the system to hang with no video but the fans run and MB LED's are still lit. Pressing the reset causes the video to restore and POST and a normal boot. I tried an old video card to eliminate a video card problem but it does the same thing. Here is the hardware I'm running, I just built it today.
MSI 970A-G45
AMD Phenom II x4 955 BE (not OC)
MSI AMD Radeon 6770 1GB DDR5 (Not OC)
Kingston HyperX Blue 4GB DDR3 PN:KHX1333C9D3B1/4G
LiteON 24x DVDRW (SATA)
WD Caviar Blue 6.0GB/S 250GB HDD
Cooler Master Extreme Power plus 500W PSU
I would post CPU-Z stats but I cant figure out how to attach images. help?
Areamike,
To adjust the command rate you have to go into the overclock tab and go into advanced DRAM config. If I can remember right you may have to adjust another setting away from AUTO to be able to access this menu. (i would be able to tell you for sure but I cant look at BIOS and be on the forum typing at the same time.lol) After having this problem I read a lot of reviews with people having trouble with this board, hopefully its just a setup problem for us.
-RickyB -
Does 870a-G54 NON FX Motherboard now support Vishera CPU's after bios flash?
I have the non fx version of the 870a-g54, I have the latest bios flashed on my motherboard right now and in the description of the bios update it reads "- Update AGESA code for Vishera CPU"
So is this support for FX cpus now ?
Is the 870a-g54 FX board the same as the mainboard non fx with just support for FX out of the box?
I'm confused, I would really love to upgrade my CPU, I know my motherboard has weak power phasing so I won't be overclocking at all if I did upgrade.
THoughts?Quote from: XFM on 16-February-13, 04:59:38
OK, here's a list from MSI I found that support Vishera, if anyone can prove otherwise then go by this list. There is no sense going back and forth without definite proof, as far as I'm concerned the proof is this list.
List of models that support the new AMD FX “Vishera” CPU
Chipset Model BIOS
AMD 900
990FXA-GD80 E7640AMS.BD0
990FXA-GD65 E7640AMS.J90
990XA-GD55 E7640AMS.M50
970A-G46 E7693AMS.1A0
970A-G45 E7693AMS.1A0
AMD 800
890FXA-GD70 Ready
890FXA-GD65 Ready
880GMA-E41 (FX) Ready
880GMA-E35 (FX) Ready
870A-G54 (FX) Ready
870-C45 (FX) V2 Ready
AMD 700
760GA-P43 (FX) Ready
760GM-P43 (FX) Ready
760GM-P23 (FX) Ready
760GM-P21(FX) Ready
760GM-E51 (FX) Ready
http://emm.msi.com/display.php?List=75&N=2209
Right there -> 890FXA-GD65 ,white socket , has FX support.So white or black it simply has to be tested and stated to work.
It was stated to work with FX 5 months before the CPU release.And this is just one example
Anyway i would say FX CPU-s SHOULD be used with boards released last year ,just to be safe it doesn t blows up when the CPU reaches some Turbo State.
FX series needs proper VRM stages. -
User guide: MSI HQ USB BIOS Flash Tool
Guide based on USB tool v1.17c
HOW TO properly use the MSI Forum HQ USB Flashing Tool to update your BIOS
This user guide provides a step-by-step explanation for properly using the >>MSI Forum HQ USB Flashing Tool<< to prepare a USB Flash Drive for a safe BIOS-Flash in a pure DOS Environment. The tool itself will not perform the actual flashing operation. It will "only" help you to get your USB Stick set up for an automated DOS flashing procedure which requires final confirmation. (If you should run into any problems before you are prompted for final confirmation in DOS, no attempt to flash has been made yet and there is no danger of a bad flash.)
NOTE: If you are having problems getting your USB device to boot correctly, you may need to format it correctly as the geometry data may be incorrect. You can do that by pickup option "Fix My USB key" from the Tool or by using >>> THIS <<< tool here! For future usage you can skip this step, it need to be done only once if your stick need adjustment.
Symptoms that your USB key need a fix after booting from the USB key:
* Error: "No bootable partition in table"
* Blinking cursor in a top left corner and nothing happens
* "RIVER2 MSI"
* "Error loading operating system"
* "Missing operating system"
* "Disk in drive is not a bootable"
* Booting from selected USB key is IGNORED, the other/typical OS continue to load as usual
If still no change after using "Fix My USB key" Tool's option or HP Formatter Tool as alternative.
Then try with different USB key, the issue is there.
Note: Those USB keys who support "U3 Smart", this "feature" must be removed before proceed.
Refer to followed link: http://u3.sandisk.com/launchpadremoval.htm
Read the three notes that follow first before you move on:
1. Note: Before you even think about flashing a different BIOS, be sure that your system is stable. If it is not stable, make it stable first. (Read >>here<<.)
2. Note: Make sure your system meets the preconditions and system requirements mentioned below before you attempt to use the tool.
3. Note: Do know that flashing your BIOS, be it with the help of the tool or otherwise, is done at your own risk.
Contents of the Guide:
0. Preconditions & System Requirements
1. Basic Description of Functionality
2. Installing/Starting the tool.
3. Choosing a Preparation Method
3.1. Method 1: Processing a BIOS Archive Directly (ZIP/RAR)
3.2. Method 2: Processing a BIOS File Directly
3.3. Method 3: SureHands Live Update
3.4. Method 4: Geometry Change
4. Selecting the USB Flash Drive for preparation
5. BIOS Settings, Booting & Flashing
5.1. BIOS Settings to Check
5.2. Booting from USB Flash Drive
5.3. Flashing Procedure/Running MemTest86+ & CMOS-Clear
6. FAQ: Common Problems & Solutions
7. Version History
0. Preconditions & System Requirements
The main precondition for using the tool is a working & healthy Windows installation on the system that needs the BIOS flash. The Tool is designed to work with MSI Retail Boards & Laptops only.
Please note mainboards of other brands and OEM boards that are manufactured by MSI but sold by Medion, HP, NEC and others are not supported. If you have an OEM board that needs a BIOS update read this topic: >>OEM boards manufactured by MSI<<
Supported Operating Systems: All current Windows Versions (32bit & 64bit, any service pack (SP)): Windows NT, Windows 2000, Windows 2003, Windows XP, Windows Vista, and Windows 7.
The second requirement is that you have a fully functional USB Flash Drive that uses the FAT file system (FAT/FAT32). NTFS is not supported. If your USB Flash Drive is using the NTFS File System, reformat it to FAT or FAT32.
As the tool also provides a Live Update Option ("SureHands"), you'll need a working internet connection if you want to choose this method. Not all boards are supported at this point.*
* Check section 3.3 of this guide to see if your board is currently supported by the SureHands feature.
1. Basic Description of Functionality
The MSI Forum HQ USB Flashing Tool will help you to easily prepare an USB flash drive for an automated BIOS flash in a pure DOS environment, which is the safest way to perform such a procedure. The tool will also allow you to run MemTest86+ in a pure DOS environment. However, the preparation of your USB Stick is done in Windows and basically includes two steps:
(1) The device will be made bootable.
(2) All necessary files (incl. BIOS file, actual flasher and MemTest86+ executable) and all DOS commands that are needed to flash/test memory will automatically be implemented.
Because the tool does not reformat your USB Flash Drive*, no files that may currently be on the stick will be lost during the procedure. Just make sure that there is still some free drive space, otherwise there will not be enough room for the files that are needed for BIOS Flashing.
* Excluding the Geometry Change method which will destroy all data on the USB storage device.
2. Installing/Starting the tool
Treat the forum's USB Flashing Tool like a regular application. Download it to and run it from your hard drive, there is no need to copy & start it from the USB Flash Drive that you want to use for flashing. Both, the installer version and the stand-alone version, do precisely the same job. Which of the two versions you use, is solely up to you and your preferences. The stand-alone version can be started directly by clicking on the executable file. The installer version will perform an installation and provide you with an entry in your start menu and a desktop shortcut to start the tool.
When you start the tool a DOS box should open up to provide you with status messages and prompts. Do not close that box unless you want to abort the preparation procedure!
Please ensure that you connect the USB flash drive you wish to use before starting the Tool!
NOTE: If you do not connect your USB storage device before starting the tool, or the tool doesn't detect it. You can still insert the drive letter, as the tool will continue as normal.
The tool will first check, if an MSI mainboard is installed in your system and show you its model name and PCB Version in a message box. Click >OK< to continue to choose the tool's preparation method that you want to use to prepare your USB Flash Drive.
3. Choosing a Preparation Method
If your MSI Retail Board is properly detected and you have pressed the >OK< button in the message box, an option box will pop up that allows you to choose between three different operating modes. The options you can choose from are more or less self-explanatory, however, read the detailed description if you are unsure how to proceed at this point:
3.1. Method 1: Processing a BIOS Archive Directly (ZIP/RAR)
Official MSI BIOS-Updates that can be downloaded from the product site of your board model do usually come as .ZIP or .RAR archives that contain the actual BIOS File and the corresponding AWARD or AMI flashing utility (depending on the BIOS Type of your board). If you have downloaded such an archive, you should choose the first method from the option box.
You do not need to extract the files from the BIOS archive. The tool will ask you to point it to the archive you downloaded and automatically extract the BIOS File and the AMI or AWARD flashing utility and put it them on your USB Flash Drive. You don't have to worry about anything else. All you have to do is to remember where you saved the ZIP or RAR file you downloaded:
3.2. Method 2: Processing a BIOS File Directly
If you do not have a ZIP or RAR archive that already contains a BIOS File and the proper flashing utitility, but only the plain unpacked BIOS File, choose the second Method from the option box. In most cases BETA BIOS Files supplied by MSI Support or shared here in the Forum do not come with the proper flashing utility. If the MSI Forum HQ USB Flashing Tool is told to process a plain BIOS File, it will automatically check the type of BIOS File (AMI or AWARD) and then select the proper flashing utility that needs to be used. All you need to do is point the tool to the BIOS-File that is supposed to be flashed:
3.3. Method 3: SureHands Live Update
"SureHands Live Update" is the third operation method you can choose from the option box. It provides a much safer and more reliable alternative to MSI Live Update as the actual BIOS Flash is performed in a pure DOS environment as well. If you decide to use this option, you do not to supply the tool with a BIOS-Archive or a BIOS-File.
Not all MSI Retail Boards are currently supported. With every update of the USB Flashing Tool more boards will be added. At present, you can use the "SureHands" Live Update method with the following boards only (the list will be updated regularly):
AMD based boards:
K8N Neo4-F (MS-7125, PCB 3.0)
K8NGM2-FID (MS-7207, PCB 2.0)
K8N Diamond Plus (MS-7220, PCB 1.0)
K8N Neo3 (MS-7135, PCB 1.0 & 2.0)
K9A Platinum (MS-7280, PCB 1.0)
K9A2 Platinum (MS-7376, PCB 1.0)
K9A2 CF-F (MS-7388, PCB 1.0)
K9N Neo-F (MS-7260, PCB 1.0 & 2.0)
K9VGM-V (MS-7253, PCB1.0)
K9N2GM-F V2 (MS-7509, PCB 1.0)
K9N Neo V2 / V3 (MS-7369, PCB 1.1)
K9N Platinum & K9N SLI Platinum (MS-7250, PCB1.0)
K9N2 Diamond (MS-7375, PCB 1.1)
K9N2 SLI Platinum (MS-7374, PCB 1.1)
K9N2 Zilent (MS-7374, PCB 1.1)
K9N2 Neo-F (MS-7511, PCB 1.1)
DKA790GX Platinum (MS-7550, PCB 1.1)
790FX-GD70 (MS-7577, PCB 1.0)
790GX-G65 (MS-7576, PCB 1.0)
Intel based boards
HydroGenX48C & X48C Platinum (MS-7353, PCB 3.0)
X48 Platinum (MS-7353, PCB 1.0)
X38 Diamond Plus
X38 Diamond (MS-7353, PCB 1.0)
X38 Platinum (MS-7353, PCB 1.0)
EFINITY-FP (MS-7395(E), PCB 1.0)
P35 Neo Combo-F (MS-7365, PCB 1.0)
P35 Neo2 Series (MS-7345, PCB 1.1)
P35 Platinum (MS-7345, PCB 1.1)
P35 Neo-F (MS-7360, PCB 1.0)
G33 Platinum (MS-7345, PCB 1.1 & PCB 1.2)
P965 Platinum (MS-7238, PCB 1.1)
975X Platinum PowerUp Edition (MS-7246, PCB 2.1)
865PE Neo2-P Platinum Edition (MS-6728, PCB 2.0C)
P7N SLI Platinum (MS-7380, PCB 1.0)
P7N2 Diamond (MS-7523 PCB 1.0)
P7N Diamond (MS-7510, PCB 1.0)
P7N SLI Platinum (MS-7380, PCB 1.0)
P6N Diamond (MS-7320, PCB 1.0)
P6N SLI Platinum (MS-7350, PCB 1.0)
P6N SLI-FI (MS-7350 PCB 2.0)
P6N SLI V2 (MS-7346 PCB 1.0)
ECLIPSE SLI (MS-7520, PCB 1.0)
ECLIPSE Plus (MS-7566, PCB 1.0)
P35 Neo3-F (MS-7395, PCB 1.0)
After selecting "SureHands" from the option box, the tool will automatically check for all available official BIOS-Versions for your mainboard. It will also look for the latest available BETA BIOS Version for you board and save that information in a TXT-File on your Desktop:
Note: The SureHands option will not provide you with the latest BETA BIOS, it will only provide the information.
When the tool is done scanning for official BIOS releases for your board, it will give you the possibility to manually choose the BIOS Version you want to flash. SureHands Live Update will not automatically select the latest version and use it for flashing, it will give you the chance of choosing between all available official BIOS releases that are available:
Note that the "May not exist" comment that appears behind some versions does not mean that the BIOS does not exist. If you know the latest BIOS for your board is e.g. v1.8, SureHands will retrieve it even though there may be such a comment. That message is part of a prediction feature that tries to determine future BIOS Releases. If a BIOS version that was predicted by the SureHands feature is not available yet, the tool will tell you if it cannot retrieve the files and ask you to select an earlier version.
3.4 Geometry Change
If the tool fails to make your USB storage device bootable then you will need to use this mode. It will make your drive bootable, select it:
Select your drive then let the tool do it's business.
Once the process is complete, run the tool again via method 1, 2 or 3, restart your computer and try booting from the USB storage device again.
NOTE: This method will destroy ALL data on the USB storage device!
NOTE: This method is available in v1.17 and beyond.
4. Selecting the USB Flash Drive for preparation
When you have chosen one of the three methods from the option list and pointed the tool at the corresponding archive, BIOS File or selected the desired BIOS Version from the list in case you chose to use SureHands Live Update, the MSI Forum HQ USB Flashing Tool will prompt you to enter the drive letter of the USB Flash Drive you want to use for flashing:
Note that certain drive letters are reserved and will therefore not be accepted by the tool (currently A:, B: and C:). If you are sure you have connected an USB Flash Drive to the system that works properly but it does not appear in the table that appears in the DOS box, enter the corresponding drive letter anyway and see if the tool accepts it. This can happen in rare cases, but it is usually no problem.
The tool will check the selected drive and will provide you with status messages. If everything is okay, the message should look like this:
The tool will attempt to make the device bootable and automatically write all files that are needed for flashing to the drive to prepare it for flashing. If the procedure was successful, you will get the following message in the DOS box:
5. BIOS-Settings, Booting & Flashing
If the Tool has prepared your drive for booting & flashing, no BIOS flash attempt has been made yet. Only the preparation process. In order to initiate the flashing procedure, you have to restart your system and make it boot from the USB Flash drive. Before you move on to do that, enter the BIOS Setup and check a few options:
5.1. BIOS Settings to Check
Check USB-related Options in BIOS:
- USB Controller
- USB 2.0 Controller
- USB Legacy Support
- USB Storage Support
- Boot from other devices
- etc.
Not all of these options may be found in BIOS and the precise name may vary as well. Just make sure you checked for such options and that they are enabled (if present).
Another option you should check for is "Boot Sector Protection". If such an option is present in your BIOS, make sure it is disabled because it may make a BIOS Flash impossible.
@all Overclockers: In case your system is currently overclocked, make sure you roll back to default clock and voltage settings before you attempt to start the flashing procedure. Otherwise you increase the risk of an unsuccesful flash, and you most probably don't want something like that to happen.
5.2. Booting from USB Flash Drive
To boot from your USB drive you can either change the boot sequence in BIOS accordingly or just press F11 during POST* to get access to the BIOS Boot Menu. From here, you can select you drive directly without having to adjust the boot sequence in BIOS. Note that your USB Flash Drive may be listed as a hard drive (if you choose that entry you will get another list to choose from).
* Not all mainboards use F11, for the boot menu. If F11 fails for you, please consult your manual for the correct key.
Note: If you have problems booting from your drive, look at the FAQ-Section of this guide and see if any of the tips resolve the issue.
5.3. Flashing Procedure/Running MemTest86+
As soon as the system boots from the drive, DOS will be loaded and you will be displayed with two options. One option will start MemTest86+, the other will begin the flashing procedure. If no choice is made, MemTest86+ will automatically start.
The flashing procedure will automatically be initiated from there. You will see status messages on the screen that will supply you with information and also prompt you for final confirmation for the actual BIOS-Flash. A backup of you current BIOS will automatically be saved to a file on the drive (backup.bin) before the flashing actually starts. You do not need to enter any commands in DOS. All you have to do is acknowledge the information on the screen by pressing a key.
The flash itself will only take a couple of seconds (20-30s at the most). If the flashing is successfully completed, shutdown the system and clear CMOS with main A/C power cable removed from PSU. Read the >>Clear CMOS Guide<< for further information.
After clearing CMOS you have completed the BIOS-Flash.
Guide created by Jack The Newbie and the forum teamVersion updated to 1.18x:
* Mode 3 Sure Hands, Live Update:
- Removed beta BIOS query check[global]
- Fixed issue K9N2 Diamond unable to be detected as supported unit if onboard is installed BIOS version 2.4,
add dynamic detection for future versions.
- Fixed issue 790FX-GD70 unable to be detected as supported unit and add dynamic detection for future versions.
- Fixed issue 790GX-G65 unable to be detected as supported unit and add dynamic detection for future versions.
- Add support for 785G-E65, add dynamic detection for future versions, prediction BIOS range 3.1 - 3.A
- Add support for 785G-E53, add dynamic detection for future versions, prediction BIOS range 3.1 - 3.A
- Add support for 790GX-G65 Winki ED, prediction BIOS range 2.1 - 2.A
- Fixed issue P7N Diamond unable to be detected as supported unit if onboard BIOS installed is 1.3 and above,
add dynamic detection for future versions.
- Add support for K9A2 Neo2, prediction BIOS range 7.4 - 7.D
- Add support for 790XT-G45, prediction BIOS range 2.2 - 2.B
- Add support for 770T-C45, prediction BIOS range 8.4 - 8.D
- Add support for 770T-C35, prediction BIOS range 8.4 - 8.D
- Fixed issue K9A2 Platinum[V1,V2] unable to be detected as supported unit if onboard BIOS installed is 1.9,
add dynamic detection for future versions, prediction BIOS range extended to 1.F0
- 790GX-G65 board prediction BIOS range extended to ver: 1.D0
- 790GX-G65 board update bios base ver from 1.xx to 4.xx [following new msi rule for this board jumping from 1.xx to 4.xx]
- Add support for 770-C35|C45 boards [p1] BIOS range 1.40 - 1.D0
- Add support for 770-G45 board [p2] BIOS range A10 - AA0
* Add "Exit" option to navigation screen
* Update version info related to boot part
* Update boot part to handle newest features
* Modify Self update sequence of Installer version
* Update internal version check ID
* Mode 4 minor update
* Build and add new Tool's module for newest features
* W32 Tool's exit time part decreased by 10 seconds
* On received OS reboot user request, time delay before execution decreased by 15 seconds
* Update EC decoder
* Update start-up information screen
* Auto store start-up detected information to user's desktop ==> [MSIHQ_INFO.TXT]
Details:
Easy to show machine information on request, instead write down from the screen manually, now just copy/paste can be used from MSIHQ_INFO.TXT
User can check and compare information before and after the BIOS update
Also usefull if didn't remember what was his original BIOS or EC versions before the update, Tool will auto store it there.
And easy can be checked if needs. E.g Tool's log file of each Tool's execution, each report will include date and time as well.
F.A.Q example:
Q: I flashed BIOS on my notebook and now it doesn't work properly.. And i don't remember what was my old BIOS version.. What can i do?
A: Take a look in MSIHQ_INFO.TXT at your desktop, there is auto recorded your detailed information about your notebook before the BIOS update.
So you can easy find what was your original BIOS & EC versions.
Is it OEM one or not, and the exact original BIOS & EC versions.
So you can roll back easy or if crossflashing were done to reflash to correct versions.
Example question:[this board now use 4.xx bios, but don't have time to make a new images.]
It's just example, do not mean that this BIOS used in the example is bad. But generally often can need to roll back to older version.
Or to use Sure Hands because[The BIOS is N/A for manual download, By SureHands no need to browse/search/download and point to the BIOS version, also eliminate any chances to pickup the wrong BIOS, and not at last its more quickly[save a time]]
Q: I flashed my BIOS via MSI Live Update, but the new BIOS has an issues.
How i can roll back to my old BIOS version?
The MSI LiveUpdate can only update to the latest BIOS version, which is not good for me.
And i can't download my old BIOS version manually... Because "This BIOS can only update via Live Update function"
http://eu.msi.com/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=bios&maincat_no=1&prod_no=1739
How i can re-flash to my original BIOS version and from where can i get it?
A: Run >>Use the MSI HQ Forum USB flasher<<,
then choose Mode 3 [Live Update{aka SureHands}]:
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in ба 30.12.2009 Ј. at 21:09:45,15
Mainboard: 790GX-G65 (MS-7576)
PCB Version: 1.0
BIOS Version: V1.3
BIOS Date: 05/08/2009
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in ба 30.12.2009 Ј. at 21:22:38,42
Mainboard: 790GX-G65 (MS-7576)
PCB Version: 1.0
BIOS Version: V1.6
BIOS Date: 11/30/2009
Then choose your old BIOS version from the list:
The followed image used below is a sample from Eclipse board,[no time to make accurate image] but will look similar for others boards too:
In a list will be noticed that there is a future BIOS versions.
Some of them will be not released yet. If you pick some of those the Tool will note you:
It's a part of Tool's BIOS prediction system called "Crystal Ball", when MSI release a future BIOSes for your board,
Tool can find them immediately. By that way the Tool no need to be updated to be actual in each moment
* Add new feature "True BIOS Version Ready"
- Updated Mode 1
- Updated Mode 2
- Updated Mode 3
Details:
Q: What "True BIOS Version Ready" means? Does the Tool show the wrong BIOS version until now?
A: Of course not, the Tool always show accurate info.
The same as CPU-Z/Everest of whatever other Tool.
However Tool also detect EC-FW versions for notebooks:
The "True BIOS Version Ready" Tool's feature is aimed to eliminate user's mass confusion about MSI BIOS versions.
And not only users are confused, but MSI's Live Update is confused too... which confuse users even more..
Few typical real examples of confusion:
"K9A2 CF wont flash to Bios v. 1.A !!!"
Quote from: Fingon on 25-October-09, 16:53:15
Hi MSI,
I have a problem. I have bought a new processor: AMD Phenom II x545. I looked on the support page of my MB (MSI K9A2 CF) and there the CPU is supported from the bios version 1.A. So I wanted to flash the Bios the the newest version (1.A). I used the MSI live update 4 program to flash it via windows mode. But everytime it boots it writes "CMOS checksum BAD", then I hit F1 to Bios and I see the version of my BIOS fell to the oldest version 1.1. Then I tried to flash it thru Flash disc (with boot files) and dos mod. The result is the same. I can flash my MB to version 1.8 but when I try the 1.A it wont flash it and my Bios fell to the oldest version (1.1). I realised that the exe files in version 1.1-1.8 are the same (afud412.exe) but the exe file in 1.A is different (afud4310.exe).
My questions are:
1) How to flash my MB to the version 1.A ?
2) Is version 1.A really needed for AMD Phenom II x545? I guess yes, because CPU was avaible in July 2009 and the bios 1.A went out in June 2009. I am able to flash it only to version 1.8 (december 2008).
Thank you for any help!!
EDIT: After reading this topic: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=129204.0 I realised I have the VERSION 1 of this board (I purchased it right after the launch of the MB (November 2007). It means it doesnt support CPU over 95W, but my Phenpom II x545 has only 80W. I still cant update Bios to the 1.A version.
So my third question is:
3) Is the Bios update 1.A only for version 2 of this MB?
Thx for replies!
Quote from: Jack t.N. on 25-October-09, 17:16:16
A CMOS Checksum error is normal and expected after a BIOS Flash and/or a CMOS Clear. The fact that this message appears, shows, that there was actually something programmed to the chip.
If you haven't done that yet, please clear CMOS with the main A/C power cable removed from your PSU and load "Optimized Defaults" in BIOS Setup.
The BIOS Version should be shown on the POST Status Screen and there should be a date behind it. Please check the BIOS Date and write it down:
Are you absolutely and entirely sure that what you see is "1.1" and not "1.10"? Because v1.A0 is actually just the hexadecimal notation for v1."10" (one dot ten). The hexadecimal notation is only used in the BIOS File Ending. Once flashed, the BIOS will not identify itself in hexadecimal notation but in decimal code (which means you will never see "v1.A0" after the flash but "v1.10" instead.
Here is a piece of well-meant advice for now and the future: MSI Live Update should be avoided under all circumstances when it comes to BIOS Updates and/or information retrieval regarding your current BIOS Version. Why? Because this tool is stupid and one of there most risky applications for performing a BIOS Flash. Please uninstall it completely.
Why do I call it stupid? I call it stupid because it does not differentiate between hexadecimal notation and decimal notation. It will show you that "v1.A0" is available. The it will flash it, if you allow it to do so. Of course, a v1.A0 Version will always come out as "v1.10" (one dot ten). When you re-run MSI Live Update it will not recognize that v1.A0=v1.10 and tell you again that there is a newer version available (1.A0, which, again, is the same as v1.10, which was just properly flashed).
I believe that the update went just fine, that you are currently using v1.A0=v1.10 and that MSI Live Update is actually just creating a pseudo-problem which is currently confusing you. The pseudo-problem will immediately be out of the world, if you uninstall MSI Live Update and rely on the BIOS ID String as it appears on the POST Status Screen (this includes the date shown there).
If a BIOS Update should ever be necessary again, please make sure that you won't use MSI Live Update but >>Use the MSI HQ Forum USB flasher<< instead.
Quote from: Fingon on 25-October-09, 18:03:44
Thank you for the quick reply!!
Thats exactly what I have JUST found in this post by Svet: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=127672.msg974800#msg974800
Yes it is 1.10 of course!! I didnt know that 1.10 = 1.A0 ! Thank you for the reply. Then the MSI live update 4 program is dump that he wanted from me another update of Bios.
So thank you! Problem is solved.
Edit: Yes, because of MSI live update I learned how to flash bios via flash disc. :-) But I was still confused by that 1.10 and of course by program saying me I should update again.. :-P
Quote from: Lostsoul777 on 14-August-09, 05:46:25
I had the same problem with 1.90 bios, so i updated to 1A, i just want to know why Bios Version says: v.1.10 instead v.1A?
Quote from: LinuxGuy on 29-December-09, 01:17:45
My computer does not have a floppy drive. How do I update the BIOS? (I tried the online utility 3 times. It always updates the BIOS "successfully" and when I restart my PC, I have to do either F1 to config or F2 to load setup defaults. So it looks like it's working, but the online update says that I have versions H.10 and version H.A0 is available (or maybe the other way around). So either the BIOS is getting updated, but the online tool is not recognizing this or it's not getting updated. Either way, I would like to manually flash it in DOS. Is it safe to burn the setup files to CD and boot from CD into DOS?
That's the same BIOS version... Just the "MSI Live Updater" is not very smart...
H.A=H.10=17.A=17.10 [A=10, H=17], the last "0" suffix in H.A0 means its official version.
Quote
I tried the online utility 3 times. It always updates the BIOS "successfully" and when I restart my PC, I have to do either F1 to config or F2 to load setup defaults.
So it looks like it's working, but the online update says that I have versions H.10 and version H.A0 is available (or maybe the other way around).
So ignore this MSI Live Updater's no sense, and stop flashing your BIOS. You already have the latest version installed.
The Tool now will detect and shows BIOS versions alias when the MSI BIOS version is known with more than one name.
So no more flashing and flashing and flashing to the same version because of MSI LiveUpdate suggest again BIOS update...
Also no more confusion:
"What's my BIOS version?" -> I flashed my BIOS to 1.A0 [A7520IMS.1A0], but BIOS says its 1.10
And MSI Live Update also says that i have 1.10 and 1.A0 is available and i should update it. I flashed it again, but its still 1.10?
What's going on?
Just run the MSIHQ USB Flash Tool and will show you all that you need to know
Examples[with real/accurate info]:
MSI Eclipse:
BIOS version 1.9:
BIOS version 1.10:[Tool now shows both BIOS versions alias]
Report stored respective in MSIHQ_INFO.TXT at user's desktop:
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in ба 30.12.2009 Ј. at 5:30:55,34
Mainboard: Eclipse SLI (MS-7520)
PCB Version: 1.0
BIOS Version: V1.9
BIOS Date: 09/22/2009
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in ба 30.12.2009 Ј. at 5:37:25,66
Mainboard: Eclipse SLI (MS-7520)
PCB Version: 1.0
BIOS Version: V1.A (aka Version: V1.10)
BIOS Date: 10/27/2009
More examples =>K9N6SGM-V / K9N6PGM-FI / K9N6PGM-F :
More examples =>945GCM5-F V2 (FSB 1333) :
Report stored respective in MSIHQ_INFO.TXT at user's desktop:
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in ба 30.12.2009 Ј. at 5:47:34,35
Mainboard: MS-7267
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: VH.9 (aka Version: V17.9)
BIOS Date: 11/20/2008
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in ба 30.12.2009 Ј. at 5:52:46,26
Mainboard: 945GCM5-F V2 (MS-7267)
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: VH.A (aka Version: V17.10)
BIOS Date: 06/02/2009
More examples =>780GT-E63 [N/A at MSI web yet] :
For MSI Notebooks such decoding isn't need, examples:
* Add new feature "Triple BIOS flash Recovery Ready"
- Updated Mode 1
- Updated Mode 2
- Updated Mode 3
Details:
The feature include 3 auto prepared BIOS backups for followed purpose:
* Internal BIOS recovery:
- In a failure case Tool perform auto flash recovery [3 attempts, check for success after each and stop flashing if successful] before give control to BK_IO2, notice users about results and give control for manual attempts[if need]. [This a case if system isn't lockup/reboot, if bad flash occur]
- This mode also have own store up to 5 backups[+1, the last saved copy is always backup.bin, if there was older one they become backup1.bin .. till 5]
* BIOS backup stored as AMIBOOT.ROM [AMI BIOS only] [Auto clean up older if there is any, before take a new backup to avoid recovery confusion]
* BIOS backup detected and stored for M-Flash style boot/recovery [AMI BIOS only] [Auto clean up older if there is any, before take a new backup to avoid recovery confusion]
Performing test simulations with random generated BIOS versions[including betas] for M-Flash boot/recovery style, some examples:
Copy/paste Tool log file:
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in 03.01.2010 г. at 7:00:53,46
Mainboard: 945GCM5-F V2 (MS-7267)
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: VD.XB2 (aka Version: V13.33B2)
BIOS Date: 06/02/2009
Co-respond BIOS backup created ==> A7267IMS.DX2
Where:
* V13.33B2 ==> MSIHQ Tool detection [The same as CPU-Z, Everest]
* VD.XB2 ==> MSIHQ Tool "True BIOS Ready" detection feature
* A7267IMS.DX2 ==> MSIHQ Tool BIOS recovery created by "Triple BIOS flash recovery Ready", part M-flash boot/recovery [1/3]
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in 03.01.2010 г. at 7:12:23,95
Mainboard: 945GCM5-F V2 (MS-7267)
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: VK.VB7 (aka Version: V20.31B7)
BIOS Date: 06/02/2009
Co-respond BIOS backup created ==> A7267IMS.KV7
Where:
* V20.31B7 ==> MSIHQ Tool detection [The same as CPU-Z, Everest]
* VK.VB7 ==> MSIHQ Tool "True BIOS Ready" detection feature
* A7267IMS.KV7 ==> MSIHQ Tool BIOS recovery created by "Triple BIOS flash recovery Ready", part M-flash boot/recovery [1/3]
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in 03.01.2010 г. at 7:18:34,46
Mainboard: 945GCM5-F V2 (MS-7267)
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: V3.9
BIOS Date: 06/02/2009
Co-respond BIOS backup created ==> A7267IMS.390
Where:
* V3.9 ==> MSIHQ Tool detection [The same as CPU-Z, Everest]
* MSIHQ Tool "True BIOS Ready" detection feature isn't need here, since this BIOS version can be known only with one name.
* A7267IMS.390 ==> MSIHQ Tool BIOS recovery created by "Triple BIOS flash recovery Ready", part M-flash boot/recovery [1/3]
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in 03.01.2010 г. at 7:22:24,04
Mainboard: 945GCM5-F V2 (MS-7267)
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: V8.1B9
BIOS Date: 06/02/2009
Co-respond BIOS backup created ==> A7267IMS.819
Where:
* V8.1B9==> MSIHQ Tool detection [The same as CPU-Z, Everest]
* MSIHQ Tool "True BIOS Ready" detection feature isn't need here, since this BIOS version can be known only with one name.
* A7267IMS.819 ==> MSIHQ Tool BIOS recovery created by "Triple BIOS flash recovery Ready", part M-flash boot/recovery [1/3]
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in 03.01.2010 г. at 7:25:38,51
Mainboard: 945GCM5-F V2 (MS-7267)
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: V4.E (aka Version: V4.14)
BIOS Date: 06/02/2009
Co-respond BIOS backup created ==> A7267IMS.4E0
Where:
* V4.14 ==> MSIHQ Tool detection [The same as CPU-Z, Everest]
* V4.E ==> MSIHQ Tool "True BIOS Ready" detection feature
* A7267IMS.4E0 ==> MSIHQ Tool BIOS recovery created by "Triple BIOS flash recovery Ready", part M-flash boot/recovery [1/3]
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in 03.01.2010 г. at 7:28:16,62
Mainboard: 945GCM5-F V2 (MS-7267)
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: V1.BB1 (aka Version: V1.11B1)
BIOS Date: 06/02/2009
Co-respond BIOS backup created ==> A7267IMS.1B1
Where:
* V1.11B1 ==> MSIHQ Tool detection [The same as CPU-Z, Everest]
* V1.BB1 ==> MSIHQ Tool "True BIOS Ready" detection feature
* A7267IMS.1B1 ==> MSIHQ Tool BIOS recovery created by "Triple BIOS flash recovery Ready", part M-flash boot/recovery [1/3]
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in 03.01.2010 г. at 7:31:57,78
Mainboard: 945GCM5-F V2 (MS-7267)
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: VI.FB5 (aka Version: V18.15B5)
BIOS Date: 06/02/2009
Co-respond BIOS backup created ==> A7267IMS.IF5
Where:
* V18.15B5 ==> MSIHQ Tool detection [The same as CPU-Z, Everest]
* VI.FB5 ==> MSIHQ Tool "True BIOS Ready" detection feature
* A7267IMS.IF5 ==> MSIHQ Tool BIOS recovery created by "Triple BIOS flash recovery Ready", part M-flash boot/recovery [1/3]
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in 03.01.2010 г. at 7:36:02,40
Mainboard: 945GCM5-F V2 (MS-7267)
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: V7.O (aka Version: V7.24)
BIOS Date: 06/02/2009
Co-respond BIOS backup created ==> A7267IMS.7O0
Where:
* V7.24 ==> MSIHQ Tool detection [The same as CPU-Z, Everest]
* V7.O ==> MSIHQ Tool "True BIOS Ready" detection feature
* A7267IMS.7O0 ==> MSIHQ Tool BIOS recovery created by "Triple BIOS flash recovery Ready", part M-flash boot/recovery [1/3]
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in 03.01.2010 г. at 7:39:11,84
Mainboard: 945GCM5-F V2 (MS-7267)
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: VC.8B6 (aka Version: V12.8B6)
BIOS Date: 06/02/2009
Co-respond BIOS backup created ==> A7267IMS.C86
Where:
* V12.8B6 ==> MSIHQ Tool detection [The same as CPU-Z, Everest]
* VC.8B6 ==> MSIHQ Tool "True BIOS Ready" detection feature
* A7267IMS.C86 ==> MSIHQ Tool BIOS recovery created by "Triple BIOS flash recovery Ready", part M-flash boot/recovery [1/3]
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in 03.01.2010 г. at 7:49:38,46
Mainboard: 945GCM5-F V2 (MS-7267)
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: VG.PB6 (aka Version: V16.25B6)
BIOS Date: 06/02/2009
Co-respond BIOS backup created ==> A7267IMS.GP6
Where:
* V16.25B6 ==> MSIHQ Tool detection [The same as CPU-Z, Everest]
* VG.PB6 ==> MSIHQ Tool "True BIOS Ready" detection feature
* A7267IMS.GP6 ==> MSIHQ Tool BIOS recovery created by "Triple BIOS flash recovery Ready", part M-flash boot/recovery [1/3]
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.18x
MSIHQ: Report generated in 03.01.2010 г. at 7:53:17,26
Mainboard: 945GCM5-F V2 (MS-7267)
PCB Version: 4.0
BIOS Version: VU.H (aka Version: V30.17)
BIOS Date: 06/02/2009
Co-respond BIOS backup created ==> A7267IMS.UH0
Where:
* V30.17 ==> MSIHQ Tool detection [The same as CPU-Z, Everest]
* VU.H ==> MSIHQ Tool "True BIOS Ready" detection feature
* A7267IMS.UH0 ==> MSIHQ Tool BIOS recovery created by "Triple BIOS flash recovery Ready", part M-flash boot/recovery [1/3] -
New build with MSI 970A-G45 won't load OS or live CD
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G45 AM3+ AMD 970
CPU: AMD Athlon II X3 455 Rana 3.3 Ghz Socket AM3
RAM: G.Skill Sniper Series 2x4GB DDR3 1866, Model F3-14900CL9D-8GBSR
Video Card (original): ASUS ENGTX550 TI DC/DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 550 Ti
Video Card (operational): XFX 7600 GT
System HD: Runcore 64GB Sata II SSD
Optical Drive: LITE-ON SATA DVD-RW drive
I just finished building a new upgrade build into an existing case with an existing PSU and hard drives/optical drive. Originally the system wouldn't power on at all, which I traced to the new video card (something to do with grounding or an inadequate power supply maybe?), but in any case I got past that for the moment with my old video card. The system will power on and get to the BIOS screen. I can enter the BIOS and everything looks fine: all my drives are detected, the RAM is present, the CPU looks correct. However, when I go to actually load an operating system, it never loads. After the BIOS screen I just get a blank screen with a white blinking cursor in the upper-left corner, and this never goes away (I've tried leaving it for 10 minutes or more).
Originally I was trying to boot from the mentioned SSD which has both Ubuntu 11.04 and Windows 7 64-bit partitions installed with GRUB2 to load them. This didn't load, so I tried an Ubuntu 11.04 live CD in my DVD-ROM drive. That didn't work, so I tried the same CD in an external USB CD-ROM drive in case it was a problem with the SATA controller/connectors. Still the same behavior. So I tried a memtest86+ CD in both drives. Still the same behavior. For each of the tests after the first I explicitly opened the boot menu with F11 at the BIOS screen and selected the device I wanted to try.
At this point I've already tried exchanging the memory I had originally bought with the memory I listed above, since the old memory I realized after I bought it was labelled as "Intel i5/i7 compatible" and the new memory is on the MSI support list for this motherboard model. Any thoughts on where to go next? My next thought was to RMA the motherboard but I feel like I'm flying blind here. I've never see a new build get stuck at this point in the boot process.OK posting from Ubuntu on my now-working build!!
So, after two weeks of messing around with the CPU, RAM, video card, etc., I finally have the thought that the one thing I haven't tried yet is the old SATA expansion PCI card that I put in early on at the bottom of the motherboard underneath the video card (out of direct sight, out of mind apparently), for when I try to connect all 7 of my SATA devices. I tried pulling that out - presto, it boots. Retried a couple of times for proof, keeps booting correctly. It can even load memtest86+ off a CD. Put the PCI card back in - still boots. Reconnected the sata drive - no boot. Remembered that this particular PCI card has two SATA ports and one is for RAID of some kind, tried the other port - now it boots. The drive connected to the card is also detected by the OS.
In conclusion, it was something entirely different from what I was working on, as it usually is.
I'm going to get to work connecting everything back up, getting the new video card working, etc. I suspect I'll be back at least to read when I try to get my memory working at 1866 (different forum I know). Thanks to those who responded for the pointers. -
Msi 970a-g45 won't enter setup
I just put together a brand new system. Components are as follows:
MSI 970A-G45 mobo
AMD FX 4100 3.6Ghz
GeForce GTX 550-Ti video card
(2) 2GB DDR3 1600 memory
When I first put this system together, I set my 3 hard drives as a raid 5 and then proceeded to install windows. First it told me I needed a dvdrom driver which I thought was funny because that's what the windows disk was running in. I restarted several times and I got a boot failure and when I restarted it again one of my harddrives disappeared. After unplugging and replugging several times I finally got them all to show up again but then it wouldn't let me back into bios. It froze several times at the entering setup screen. I tried resetting cmos and no results. I pulled the memory down to one stick and got into bios again but it hasn't reset anything other than the date. Windows 7 boot disk still won't run and I don't know what else to do with it. I have used this disk to recently set up 4 other computers and have eventually gotten all the other bugs worked out. What else can I do to insure that this will work?Use as few components as possible when installing Windows: No doubles or extras or other unnecessary things. Add the unnecessary things afterwards.
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After BIOS flash, case buttons no longer work 790FX-GD70
Hello,
I was getting a Hypersink flood error and with much research found that a flash of the bios is a fix for this.
I have flashed the BIOS plenty of times on other motherboards. BIOS flash went smoothly (I used this forums bootloader). Ever since flashing of the BIOS, I can't turn on the computer unless it is through the power button on the motherboard itself. I have tested the switch independently and they work fine. Post is fine, runs windows fine, time and date are correct, etc...
Anyone have any ideas on how to fix this?
Equipment:
Motherboard: MSI 790FX-GD70 c3
Chip: AMD Phenom II x4 955
BIOS software: Latest versionAfter an update of BIOS, pull power cable out and clear CMOS.
However, I am not sure the BIOS update and a non-working power-button are related. What case have you got?
Please say if your system uses a PSU, and if so name and model. -
I am building a new system and am using then 970 motherboard. When I turn it on power goes to the motherboard and the LED lights up that there is power however I get no image on the monitor and the computer doesn't POST. I've done everything I know to do and nothing works.
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G45
Model: MS-7693
Power Supply: Antec 500W BP500U
Processor: AMD FX-8120 Zambezi 3.1GHz Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor FD8120FRGUBOX
Memory: Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model 997018
Graphics Card: XFX Nvidia GeForce GT520Please get a normal powersupply and not this rubbish junk: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371004
And you have to flash it with a supported CPU to make it work. -
970A-G45 unable to shut-down/ reset
I've got a MSI 970a-G45 mobo running Win 7 64bit with CoolerMaster GX 650W PSU which I recently upgraded the cpu from FX4100 to FX6300. Have encountered problem when after idling for couple of hourse all the USB stopped working, display gone blank but PC still running (fans are still running). Pressing and holding the power button doesn't turn off the system nor pressing the reset button to reboot works. After turning off the switch and switching the PC on, the same symptoms will happen when using the computer (all of sudden the screen will turn blank, all USB devices stopped but cpu lights/fans still running), unless the PC is not on after sometime.
Prior changing to CPU I've also upgraded the mobo firmware to v1.11 and it was running fine on FX4100. Anyone knows what's wrong?Quote from: JLio01 on 26-September-14, 09:59:23
well...you can try if you have other mobos or psu to test..since you mentioned it was running fine on FX4100, I'd think it's just the BIOS compatibility issue.
unfortunately I don't have spare mobos and I'm abit paranoid as AMD mobos are getting rare in Singapore (no demand as everyone is heading intel), hence , I'm trying to hang on to this as long as I could as I've also read there are some issues in 970a-G46 boards :( .
have juz read from another forum with regards to 970a-g46 "For new FX series CPu support Version 1.10 is needed. v2 or newer Version requires Windows 8 System. Or else Mobo will get bricked", so I guess it'll be the same for g45
Sorry but are there any MSI tech able to comment on this? Or am I require to write in to have an open ticket? Thanks. -
970A-G45 downclocking CPU at 53C
I've been playing Payday 2 lately and have noticed some odd behavior. After playing for so long, all at once the game gets slow and laggy. I run All CPU Meter in the background and notice that when the game gets laggy, that Core Temp is showing 255C for my core temps. After this point, all applications run slow until I reboot the system.
Then I checked CPU-Z and I think I found the culprit. I took a screenshot of CPU-Z, then ran Prime95 until the temp went to 255C (which happens around 53C after about 5 seconds), then took another screenshot of CPU-Z.
Before:
Core Speed 3299.94 MHz
Multiplier x 16.5
Bus Speed 200.00 MHz
HT Link 1999.97 MHz
Core Voltage 1.376 V
After:
Core Speed 799.99 MHz
Multiplier x 4.0
Bus Speed 200.00 MHz
HT Link 1999.98 MHz
Core Voltage 1.240 V
I tried updating to latest bios (v2.5) which didn't help. At this point I did follow MSI instructions to hard-clear CMOS using motherboard jumper and also to load optimized defaults from BIOS setup. I haven't touched bus speed or voltage settings.
I tried a different CPU cooler (Arctic Cooler Freezer 64 Pro) but temps have been about the same. I tried taking the door off the side of my case which DOES help when I'm gaming but not if I try running Prime95. I've always had trouble with CPUs on this board getting too hot and I can't figure out what to do about it. Any suggestions?
System:
MSI 970A-G45 (MS-7693) v1.0 (bios v2.5)
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T
4 x G.Skill F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ
Antec 750W TruePower
Radeon HD 6950
On a side note, I was originally having problems with the same board, different CPU on this thread:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=151913.0MSI replaced my 970A-G45 with a 970A-G46 (bios 2.5). I installed it an ran Prime95 for an hour. The CPU maxed out and stabilized at 51 or 52C which was nice to see. It seemed to be running fine.
After getting back to gaming (Payday 2) I quickly noticed in-game lag. Usually I assume a poor graphics card to blame but running Bandicam indicated a framerate between 60-90 fps. My CPU temps continued to hold steady around 51C while gaming. CPU utilization on each core fluctuates between 30-70% (on average, with all 6 cores busy) while I play with occasional spikes that max CPU utilization. Nothing indicates a CPU or GPU load except that the game gets laggy. If I take the side off my case, however, the lag goes away so it's almost like something is getting loaded and getting too hot but I can't place what.
As an aside, one of my friends has the same GPU and an Intel 2500k (similar clock speed but fewer cores) but doesn't have lag issues in Payday 2.
So in doing some reading I run across this article:
http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboards-vrm-info-database
I find the 970A-G46 and see "Throttling" listed under VRM. I'm already aware that there are heat issues with this line of boards. Could it be that the CPU is still getting too hot, but now instead of overheating it is throttling back? If that's the case I'm not getting full use of my CPU. What can I do to get this fixed? -
Please help:System keeps rebooting after Bios flash update
Hello,
Ok for starters I have the K9A2 CF motherboard,4GB of ram,My last Bios was 1.8.
I was flashing to 1.9 using the bios flash tool and a usb 1GB stick.The Bios flash went without errors and I rebooted.After this I booted back up.It gets to the 512Mb on the screen then poof,the system reboots automatically and keeps doing so thereafter unless I shut the PC off.How can I restore my Bios or fix this issue.This is not good as I cant even get to the post screen before it reboots to change anything.
Thanks,
K9A2 CF board
Windows Vista 64
4GB Corsair ram
80GB Stata HD
200GB IDE HD
DVD-RW DriveQuote from: soldat32 on 06-August-09, 05:16:16
CPU Type QuadCore AMD Phenom, 2500 MHz (12.5 x 200)AMD Phenom X4 9850 Quad Core Processor HD985ZXAGHBOX - Black Edition, Unlocked 2.50GHz, 4MB Cache, 2000MHz (4000 MT/s) FSB, Agena, Quad-Core, Retail, Socket AM2+, Processor with Fan
No errors were found in my memory.My PSU seems to be working fine.My VGA is a XFX Nvidia 9600GT with 512mb.
Have you tried that?:
Quote from: Svet on 06-August-09, 03:52:32
Try with your second stick alone in the same DIMM slot.
Quote from: soldat32 on 06-August-09, 05:16:16
CPU Type QuadCore AMD Phenom, 2500 MHz (12.5 x 200)AMD Phenom X4 9850 Quad Core Processor HD985ZXAGHBOX - Black Edition, Unlocked 2.50GHz, 4MB Cache, 2000MHz (4000 MT/s) FSB, Agena, Quad-Core, Retail, Socket AM2+, Processor with Fan
Its 125W CPU.
Can you shows picture of your board? Is it V2? Is there a heatsink over mosfets?:
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