Bios or core center problem

I resently flashed from 1.8 to 1.9 bios, and updated to latest corecenter. I was getting Aqua mark 3 scores of 53.500 and very happy, also running UT2004 and never crashing. Now since these updates all that has changeed. The CPU score in Aquamark is down 30% from 10,150 to 7060. UT2004 crashes after 5 to 10 minutes. Why Why Why would MSI do this to me?!?!?!?!?!
I have not made any other changes or updates (except an update to ASUS smartdoctor which is working fine).
I downloaded and flash bios 1.8 from the MSI site in DOS mode but after loading the raid drivers when I would normally see the first windows screen I got a black monitor and nothing else. So I ran the Bios rescue I had created when I update to 1.9 and now I'm back with 1.9 and all of the problems I just described.
Please help, I would like to get back to 1.8 but I don't know it didn't work.

Personally I don't think ATI cards suck, I've loved my 9600XT since I got it and had no real problems with it. I've managed to get a significant performance increase with the use of the Omega Drivers and a significant overclock of the card, and I'm certain that my next card will be an ATI.
But anyway each to thier own, this is not a discussion over the best Gfx card, I'm just going to repeat my above suggestion, as I went from 35000 in Aquamark 3 down to 25000 when I changed my AGP appature from 128Mb to 64Mb. At the end of the day he has nothing to lose trying this as if it works he avoids the risks associated with flashing the bios, if it does not work, only a small amoun t of time has been lost.

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After the proper bios adjustments and correct settings i can use corecenter to reach the maximium overclocking setting for this tool.
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This way will lead to a fsb of 222, for my memory also without changing the timings leading to a 6600 score in sandra for memory.
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Now i'm not running this since i don't need the extra heat and my games don't require it either,yet.
And i can run my cpu higher also,but that's not the issue.
It's a way to see with which settings you get more performance without messing up the bios.
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HI
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because i know someone ho bought a motherboard similar to mine exept his board had gigabit lan. and he didn´t have the same problem his core center works perfectly.
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Just wanted to let you know about a problem i had the other night. You will see my specs below but i recently installed core center and all was running well until 2 nights ago when the pc would start up into windows load up core center and then re-boot. The problem was core center it's self when windows was starting it up for some reason core center decided to overclock my pc i only realised this when i saw a brief glimpse of the CPU speed as core center started it was over 2.6 GHZ no wonder the machine shutdown i eventually got it to boot up and get into core center where i found that this time it was trying to run my machine at a FSB of 215 i reset this back to 200 and the re-booting stopped i decided to just un-install core center to save any further problem.
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Please give your signature (computer spec).
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Quote from: Maverick0984 on 20-July-07, 22:44:21
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