Bios Question? KT3-Ultra

I bought this board for a friend's computer for, and I hate to admit it, one main reason: It was red... His case is solid acrylic and all his fans are red led, and his cables red, and his cpu fan red, and so on and so forth....His decision, not mine. Anyway, the specs on the board stated it would go up to a 2600+ or better, so I felt justified in buying a 2200+ thiinking I could run it as such. WRONG! The motherboard turned out to be a 6380e but of fujitsu-seimmens fame. I know that I cannont upgrade the current bios chip of Phoenix type, with the MSI AMI type bios. What I was wondering if it would be possible to get a bios chip off of a real 6380e flashed with any version of the MSI bios,(I can upgrade it myself after that) and just switch the 2 out? The boards are identical in every way except for the bios chip.....I don't see a problem in doing this, but really don't know if it is an option......

I think it was an old Fujitsu Siemmens board as with some research I did it looks like they purchased a bunch to use in some computers but scrapped the design and sold it off. The Fujitsu-Siemmens page and the HP page don't have a 6380 motherboard at all, they have similar ones, but they are all running the kt266a chipset whereas the one I purchased is running the kt300. As for flashing the chip with original bios I don't see how that could be done. The original bios is made by ami......the chip on the board is a phoenix/award. It boots with the word award bios, the file sizes when you go to flash, (though I have never done it completely) don't match. Or at least I don't think that they did......I can't remember, I just know that the program gave me some interesting errors and I didn't want to proceed because of them.

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Hey Bas...you have a modified 5.6 bios for KT3 ultra series?

i saw a post you made at http://www.amdforums.com about one. here is the quote: just wondering if you have a new one for the 5.6 bios?
Modded KT3 BIOS Tweak and Full-Raid....(Updated)
Hi,
Don't confuse this one with the BIOS-Mod from PMShodan.....
It's not the same version....
The Kunibert BIOS has many tweak options and a full-blown raid....
So it's cool too for non-Raid users
The BIOS and Raid drivers can be found here:
http://ftp://ftp.heppen.be/MSI (look in the KT3 directory)
We have tested this BIOS with a single Array.
Please let us know if there are any problems.
The problem with above 2 disks/array's should be fixed now.
!!! NOTE: This BIOS can void your warranty on the board!!!
!!! Don't blaim us when something goes wrong!!!

Hi,
You didn't look did you?
I found some 5.61 modded BIOS'ses and they are there :D

KT3 Ultra BIOS problem + question

Hi
after switchin on the CPU Halt command detection. My PC beeps 3 times after shutting down. D-LED says memory problem. When I turn off the PSU and after a while turn it on, everything is OK and PC boots normally. Does anyone know the reason of the beeping??
Question: has somebody tried (somebody very rich to afford buying Barton) Barton (or T-Bred FSB333) processor on KT3 Ultra??
thx a lot )

Hi,
Switching on CPU HALT Command will make your system unstable. That's the message of the beeps.
You should be able to improve this by using a better PSU. Otherwise, there is no reason of using CPU HALT command as there are many software CPU Coolers you can get.

KT3 Ultra (2) Bios version 5.7 released

MSI has now released bios version 5.7 for the KT3 Ultra (ARU) and KT3 Ultra2. Fixes posted are:-
Support AMD Barton XP3000+ (FSB333) CPU (For KT3 Ultra2 only)
Add CPU Halt Command Detection in the Bios Setup
Fixed ATI 8500 AGP Card cannot be used
The new bios can be downloaded here:-
KT3 Ultra (ARU)
Link
KT3 Ultra2
Link

Juras. This thread may help answer your question Link

KT3 ULTRA-2 BIOS 5.5 OR 5.6 ?HI

Hi. I have a kt3 ultra-2 that had a 2000+ cpu.
I upgraded the cpu to a 2600+ that runs at 333. So i set the fsb to 166. It works just fine. my question is.
My bios is 5.5 and 5.6 says it supports the 2600+.
Do i need the 5.6 bios? Is ther new settings in it for a 2600+. And does live update 2 really work right with ntfs and xp. thank you for the help )

Hi,
No, you can stay with 5.5 if you like....
5.6 won't add settings, if 5.5 is running fine, leave it alone..
Yes, LiveUpdate works with XP and NTFS.

KT3- Ultra aru board (ms-6380e series) processor question

Ok i'm running a msi kt3 ultra aru motherboard with bios version 5.7
looking at the cpu charts i'm slightly confused. What I'm wondering is can I run an athlon 3000 processor on this board? I know its going to raise the bus speed up but I'm running pc2700 ram right now so I dont see that being a problem.
anyone either running a newer processor on this board, or who would know the answer, it would be appreciated....
thx!

You guys rock. Thanks for the feedback. haven't made the purchase yet, got a friend that manages a compusa thats supposed to be getting me a deal, we'll see I guess....
THANKS AGAIN!!!

MSI KT3 Ultra ARU 5.7 BIOS and SoudBlaster Cards - Audigy

I have flashed my BIOS to 5.7 Version and my sound card start to make a lot of noise (crackling) when play AC3 or DVD. If you dont want to use the new AMD CPU 333 FSB you dont need to flash the BIOS - I have Flashed to 5.6 again but, if you want to use a 333 FSB CPU you can flash the BIOS to version 5.7 and if have sound problems use the PCI latency patch for VIA chipsets.
VIA chipset MotherBoard owners who have through all of the above and still have sound problems with their Soundblaster cards, might want to look into the PCI latency patch for VIA chipsets - get it here:
http://www.georgebreese.com/net/software/
(scroll down the page there just a little to get to it).
There's also a similar page about resolving sound problems on Via chipset based computers here:
http://www.deinmeister.de/mvp3_zlt_e.htm
I hope this post help somebody
Mário Silva from Beja - Portugal
My System:
MSI KT3 Ultra ARU
Athlon 2400+
512 Kingston PC2700 DDR SDRAM
MSI Geforce4 Ti 4200
SoundBlaster Audigy
Windows xp Pro SP1
400W PSU
Creative Drx3
Pinnacle PCTV pro
HDD Maxtor 80 GB UDMA 133
DVD Pioneer slot in
RW Samsung 48x16x48
Creative WebCam Go
UPS 500 VA
Monitor Sony 19" E400E

Since my chip is an unlocked, I cannot easily run it at the default, but I can underclock it. At 100x6.0=600mhz, USB does not work, as well as 100x12.5. Same with 133x6.0 and 133x12.5. It appears to make no difference underclocking or overclocking.
I downloaded the right BIOS listed on MSI's KT3 Ultra-ARU page. I don't think the BIOSes are different anyway, since the same files, changelog, and etc are also listed for the Ultra-2 board.
A thing to note, that this is the onboard VIA-controller USB ports doing this. My Ultra-ARU's NEC-controller USB 2.0 ports work fine in both Win2k and Linux if I hook my mouse and keyboard up in those. This is not an ideal solution for me though.

Max hard drive size on a KT3 Ultra ?? bios is 5/24/02

MSI MS-6300-Series MS-6380E (KT3 Ultra-ARU)
I have a Maxtor 40gb ata 100 hd,and want to grab a bigger drive.I am running Win 2K
If I do need to flash.
What bios do I need to flash to,and what is the max size hard drive I can use with this ancient motherboard ? thanks in advance.
Also have a 32x cd rom LG
and 2 128mb sticks of ddr
Athlon XP 1800
EDIT: NM all,I found it can up to at least 250Gb hard drives on ATA133

MSI MS-6300-Series MS-6380E (KT3 Ultra-ARU)
I have a Maxtor 40gb ata 100 hd,and want to grab a bigger drive.I am running Win 2K
If I do need to flash.
What bios do I need to flash to,and what is the max size hard drive I can use with this ancient motherboard ? thanks in advance.
Also have a 32x cd rom LG
and 2 128mb sticks of ddr
Athlon XP 1800
EDIT: NM all,I found it can up to at least 250Gb hard drives on ATA133

KT3 Ultra Deluxe Processor Upgrade Question

I purchased a Computer, custom built by a local shop(before I got into the spyware/virus removal business and woulda possibly tried to build my own) a few years back, and it has been a great system except that now the one online game I play, Everquest, is running slow when 30+ players are on the screen. Other friends with brand new computers experience no lag/choppyness... The lag is only experienced with multiple players on screen.
With some friends, we have decided that it is not my Video card or anything else in the system, but the processor that needs upgrading.
I have :
AMD AthlonXP 1800(1507mhz in bios i think)
MSI KT3 Ultra Deluxe(VIA KT333 chipset based) (it has RAID, so im assuming the ARU model)
1024mb PC2100 or PC2700 ram..(not sure how to check)
NVidia GeforceFX5500 256mb Video
Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy
Maxtor 7200rpm 40gb hard drive on Raid IDEs(set as dummy IDEs, not RAID)
Maxtor 7200rpm 80gb hard drive on Raid IDEs(set as dummy IDEs, not RAID)
Lite on 16x DVD-Rom drive(Primary IDE master)
Plextor 8/4/4/2/12 DVD-RW PX-708A(Secondary IDE Master)
Originally windows98 installed by the store.
Reformatted twice and Windows 2000 installed presently.
a SMC $10 junk NIC that I will be replacing with a 3com cause im tired of it after 2months(my good netgear FA311 went bad)
What I am wanting a definite answer on, is whether I can stick a 2600mhz, 333 Barton Athlon XP in this.
I have searched the forums and most topics say yes/no... 50/50... so im confused.
Is it possible to put the 2600 in there... will that even help... on player movement/etc in the game..(a friend with a similar system and a Radeon X800 Pro 256mb sees no difference and has similar lag to me(only in large player raids with multiple players on screen))
I am just trying to see if I can spend $100 to throw a Barton 333 2600mhz in here and I think that should help it..
or if I have to spend $250+ to possibly get a new PS, ram, processor/mobo the works.
So.. is it possible?
How much work would be put into it, besides
Turn system off, unscrew the fan/heatsink, pop the processor out
put the new processor in.
Put the new heatsink/fan on
start the system?
Or is there going to be alot of..... BIOS work involved.

Friend has very similar system
1700 AthlonXP
1gig ram
ATI Radeon X800 256mb(a premier card I thought? as in performance) Pro
He experiences lag/choppiness same as me, at times with 30+ users on the screen/game.
I had read that officially Barton was impossible, im just asking if there is anyway to put a barton on it and will it work/how much work will it end up needing.
266mhz 2600s arent available anywhere I look.... no 266mhz is actually..
So Im just fearing ill need to upgrade the entire motherboard too.. and may be better off getting a new barebones kit.
Its not gradual... its just when 30 players/characters are on the screen.... especially when they move... it gets choppy, take the number down to 10... and its lag free/choppy free.
5v and 3.3v = 245 max watts
5v, 3.3v and 12v = 380 max watts
115/230 Volts
3.3=28A
5=40A
12=18A
The NIC is being ordered as im typing this... hopefully a 3com NIC will provide better power than a SMC 10$ replacement for my netgear FA311...
It has to be either the NIC or the processor.
The reason for this im just saying.. is my friend has sound blaster audigy, similar processor(1700), cheap nic, a MSI mobo, not sure if its Ultra3 or not... and has very similar issues to me, despite throwing $350 down on that Radeon X800 256mb Pro, supposedly the best video card you can get.
It didnt relieve hardly any of his lag... and hes quite.... happy about it... /sarcasm

KT3 Ultra MS-6380E whit bios 5.0

My KT3 Ultra MS-6380E whit bios 5.0 don't recognize fsb of athlon xp 1800+ .
Mainboard set fsb at 100Mhz if i set manually at 133 the system don't boot.
I go at bios update in msi site and ALL bios tool for upgrade are a AMI BIOS

I am running a XP 1900+, I wouldn't run with my old 250W PSU, bought an ALLIED ATX 350W, and runs like a charm. Only $30. Easy Fix

KT3 Ultra 2 - Bios V5.7 - Problem

Hello,
I don't know if anyone else has tried updating the KT3 Ultra 2 to the new V5.7 BIOS ?
I tried and got load of error messages on the screen, Chipset isn't support etc ROM Size Unknown ....
I have V5.6 on right now.
I have tried Live Update, it doesn't show new bios and also tried another floppy with files on and also downloaded the file again.
No win !

I did not have that particular problem but I found others
I was able to load new 5.7 bios but after I did it took board about 2 minutes to boot.
The part where the XP logo screen is supposed to come up took about 2 minutes. There is no HD (light) activity and then all of a sudden you hear harddrive and XP logo screen comes up and it boots fine.
The same situation arose with Bios 5.6 but I was able to fix that by changing MPS table from Default 1.4 to 1.1. The XP screen would take about 2 minutes to boot so I tried changing settings in bios and finally came to the MPS entry and changed it to 1.1 and the board booted fine. It took about 3-5 sec for the XP logo scrreen to pop up after the last bios screen that would show all the Devices, IRQ's ect...
Changing the MPS to 1.1 in the 5.7 bios did not fix the long boot problem like it did in 5.6.
I can live with the 5.6 bios but the CPU halt command in the 5.7 bios drops temps about 20 degrees F and that is great. I hope this problem can be fixed in 5.7 so I can utilize the CPU Halt command.
My Second Rig: Backup
AMD Athlon XP 2200 (266 fsb)
MSI KT3 Ultra 2
XP Professional SP-1
512mb Crucial PC2700
3 Western Digital HD (2) 80Gb and (1) 20Gb
Enermax EG365AX-VE powersupply
Hercules Gforce 2 GTS/Pro 64mb
Waveterminal 192L sound card
Promise Ultra 133 TX2 card
Intel Pro/1000 MT desktop adapter
Plextor 24x10x32 CDRW
Toshiba DVD
Coolermaster ATC-201 Case
CoolerMaster HHC-001 Heatpipe HS

Big problem with KT3 Ultra (ms-6380e v1.0) after flashing the BIOS (de

Hello out there.
I have a real complicated matter with my Kt3 Ultra board.
Used to work fine, but after I flashed it with the latest BIOS (5.7), the board has this strange behaviour: when I clear the CMOS, the board boots up, when I change & save the settings, the board does not "come to life"(black screen & beeper silent).
It has also this weird problem: it shows garbage charaters on the voltage setting of the CPU. Instead of voltages (i.e. 1.750 etc. etc.) I have only "scrambled" strings.
I had MANY difficulties in upgrading the BIOS because the AMI-flashing utility kept telling me "bios protection enabled) (but there was NO bios-protect setting in the previous bios - I checked a zillion times)...but after trying with different revisions finally I made it.
I already tried everything (re-flashed older bios-es etc. etc.)and I'm starting to feel beat ... if you have any advice, please le me know.
It would be really SAD to put this great board in the garbage-dump....
Bye,
Wyk'03

im having problems with this board as well,
i had no problems with the flash,
i did this...
boot to win me floppy,
copy the flash files to ramdrive, flashed to latest bios..
now windows hangs when i have my ac97 audio enabled in bios...
I WANT MY AC97!
hmmm can you get to a dos prompt from a boot disk?
try re-flashing with 1.0 again and then disable the cmos virus protection thingy, and yes it was there it was in the 1.0 bios on the main screen.

KT3-Ultra 5.7 BIOS.....

Hi,
The KT3-Ultra (-ARU) 5.7 BIOS will be released official this week...
Don't expect much changes over the last BIOS as there are very little.
As these are the only improvements:
Fixed AMD 2600+(266MHz FSB) CPU shown incorrectly
Fixed ATi8500 AGP card cannot be used

Quote
Originally posted by Bas
Hi,
That there isn't official support doesn't mean it won't work on the board....
As I heard from several people that the TBred-333 CPU's do work, even when they are not supported....
We have to wait until somebody tries it :D
Hi,
I know, it's only a bios trouble, infact on the MoBo page (at CPU support section) are tested processors till +2800/333mhz without problems, and my T-Bred goes easy at 166mhz. Barton have only 256k plus L2 than T-Bred...but why MSI dosen't make a bios with the official support to 333mhz? The KT3Ultra2 was reported officially (in old news from MSI) with 333mhz support. I'm very disappointed about this... :(

KT3 Ultra + v5.7 BIOS -- weird behaviour

I have KT3 Ultra with newly flashed 5.7 BIOS + XP2100, 512 333DDR, Club3D 9700np, WindowsXP.
I had some start-up troubles after installing 9700np (8 beeps and no signal), which forced me to reset the system every time after power up to load windowsXP. So, I decided to flash the BIOS. Now, system boots up with no problems, but I've encountered a new problem.
Pressing ctrl+alt+del doesn't bring up the TASK MANAGER. All I get is the CPU USAGE window. Thus, processes, applications etc., those are gone. This means, basically, that I can't shut down programs that are not responding (not that I need to do that very often, but still...). Right clicking on the task bar and selecting TM shows me the same CPU USAGE window.
In addition, IE's pop-up windows that launch external programs (like some sites offering mp3 ring tones that I play with Winamp) cause IE to crash. Never happened before.
All this happened right after I flashed the BIOS. Any ideas?!?! Should I go back to 5.5 that I had before?
Thanks,
Thomas

This is pobubly off topic, but since the title is KT3 Ultra and Bios 5.7 I decided to ask here so as not to create a duplicate thread.
I to flashed my Bios to 5.7, but my problem is as follows.
After flash rebooted my computer as instructed, entered bios and verified all my configurations. Rebooted again. Windows came up fine but all text was garbled and unreadable. Reflashed 5.7 (thinking it didn't take). Again same problems. Had to flash back to 5.6 inorder to straighten out.
Bas any ideas?
Thomstucks:: Sorry to hear about your problem, and for jumping in on your thread. Have you tried 5.6?

KT3 Ultra 2 question

Does KT3 Ultra 2 support 48bit lba? If not does it with any bios updates or is it completely doomed?
I am trying to decide weather I'm gonna buy a 200gb drive for my fileserver(which is running an old kt3 ultra 2), or a 200gb sata for my main machine. It all depends on the 48bit lba(aka. support for drives over 137gb).

Yes it does according to this test report:-http://www.msi.com.tw/html/products/mainboard/testreport_pdf/6380E_Ultra2/hd.pdf However you do need to ensure that the operating system you use supports it as well.

Question about KT3 Ultra 2

Hi all,
I am currently running the KT3 Ultra 2 board with the Via 333 chipset, and I want to get a new processor. The processor i'm looking at is the AMD Athlon XP 2500+ with the Barton Core, but I'm not sure if my board supports this specific chip. Anyone know if it does? Thanks.

Quote
Originally posted by Reijin
Thanks very much!
Hmm, guess this board can't run it at 333 FSB...ah well.
wat do you mean it cant...
the only athlons that mobo cant run are the 400Mhz FSB bartons
i have that exact mobo and am using a 333 FSB 2700+, works fine as well
the 2500+ will work fine
might need to flash yer bios though

Bios Question? KT3-Ultra

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