Bios Update....what is it?

Would anyone who is really informed be kind enough to tell me about the 'BIOS Update' that is talked about on Toshiba website? Is this really needed ... does it make any difference if I dont download it?
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Hi
On the Toshiba website you will find newer BIOS versions. Sometimes the BIOS update procedure can solve some strange issues which occur on the notebooks.
But the BIOS upgrade is a serious procedure. If you use the wrong BIOS or wrong procedure so its possible that you will damage the motherboard.
Well, in my opinion if you dont have any serious issues on your notebook you dont need to make any upgrades. Never change a wining team ;) you know.
There you will find the BIOS:
http://eu.computers.toshiba-europe.com/cgi-bin/ToshibaCSG/download_drivers_bios.jsp
http://www.toshiba-tro.de/subpage/bios.html
And there you will find very useful and important informations about BIOS upgrading:
http://eu.computers.toshiba-europe.com/cgi-bin/ToshibaCSG/faq.jsp?z=234&service=EU&from=faq_selection&CFID=B IOS&FID=TRO0000000b07

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