Bitrate too high after calculating video and audio

Hi,
I have exported a sequence from premiere using a setting of CBR 8.5 with PCM audio.
Using the bitrate viewer I have found out that the bitrate required towards the end of the video peaks at 9348 with an average for the entire sequence being 8297.
Now, I read that the maximum bitrate allowed for DVD is 9.800 so I go ahead and reduce the audio bitrate using an AC3 compression method - reducing the PCM audio to a bitrate of 224.
I am assuming at this point that the audio will be no more than 224 bitrate which by my calculation will be within the DVD specification.
Encore is still reporting that my timeline bitrate is too high.
Any ideas? Does anyone know of a bitrate viewer for audio so I can rule out the bitrate peak for that?
Cheers,
MJ

Just checked the project. It is at a place where I am running a slide show and specifically the Slash Slide transition that caused the largest spike. There are several of these spikes when I'm using this type of transition so there you have it. The transitions are causing the surge in bitrate. Quite annoying really, they last all but a second but cause me to spend another 5 hours re-encoding!
Edit: Thinking about it... if I now set my CBR bitrate to 8 and re-encode will I see the same high spikes? Meaning, will they be as high as my last attempt at 8.5? Seeing that CBR does not actually stay at a constant bitrate this has now got me a little concerned I will have to remove some effects to get decent quality.
MJ

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