Black and White conversion

Has anyone worked on finding greyscale conversion 'slider recipes' that give a similar look to various popular films. Would appreciate if you could share some of these.
Cheers
Kev.

onOne offers a set of 85 Lightroom Presets, which includes 10 black and white presets you might find worthwhile. You can download them for free at the bottom of the page in the following link:
http://www.ononesoftware.com/downloads/
If you have PhotoShop, you might also find their plug-in called PhotoTools helpful. It has three times as many presets (in the professional version), but does not work in Elements. Check out the video tutorials about using the library, using presets, and using the stack, along with the four real-world examples of how to apply the presets at the bottom of the list at this link:
http://www.ononesoftware.com/tutorials/tutorials_phototools.php
I currently have Elements6, and onOne's Plug-in Suite4. The fact that PhotoTools is not compatible with PE6 makes me want PhotoShop even more. Fact is, the only reason I haven't upgraded to that is I am waiting for CS Next before doing so.
There are also presets made available by other users... some free, some not, at the following link:
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm?s=5&from=1&o=desc&cat=281&l=-1&event=produ ctHome&exc=25
Hope you find the links useful.
Regards, JML

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Screen grab from LR on the left, and PS on the right.
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Geoff the kiwi wrote:
How does the OP's green/magenta colouring equate to your stated red/cyan?
Well, it looks cyan to me. Here it is with saturation boost - assuming the OP made the screenshot correctly, assigning the display profile:
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How does the OP's green/magenta colouring equate to your stated red/cyan?
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Hello, lisa & scott
scott has some good advice for you except for one statement he made which is misleading and has been circulating around the mac internet news forums misleading readers and I would like a chance to squelch it once and for all:
Quote: "but really, this repair permissions action is starting to have a bit of "voodoo" status in OS X troubleshooting circles. i'm not sure that it will help with your slow-downs in Aperture though."
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How do we answer any question in any forum as to why is this problem is happening to you? and not to others? or, maybe to others? There needs to be a starting base or instructions if the problem is not a known issue or if the problem cannot be verified on the systems on our end.
The recommendations I have made are painless, harmless and the least invasive. It will dump a lot of temporary files, font cache, get the OS X talking to it's respective files, directories, volumes, etc. it is the first step in finding out if the problem is
1. User-Related
2. Software-Related
3. OS-Related
4. Hardware-Related
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love & peace,
victor

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Thanks for reply. I am able to open and convert from raw ok, what I don’t know if I can do is process multiple files that have been changed, i.e. to black and white?
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Geoff the kiwi wrote:
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Seen in Acrobat Pro 10* with proof simulation "Dot Gain 15%" or any of the other available gray scale profiles.
(Acrobat Pro 11 might get this wrong due to a bug)
100 % Black => 100 %
80 % Black => 80 %
60 % Black => 60 %
40 % Black => 40 %
20 % Black => 20 %
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OI: GrayScale profile Black ink of ISO Coated v2 300%
Tested with:
InDesign CC 2014.2
Distiller X
Acrobat Pro X
Mac OSX 10.7.5
Uwe
* There are several, convoluted steps necessary to get this (hope, I can remember them all):
Not optional:
Have a grayscale profile representing the channel Black of your intended output CMYK or generate one!
In my case the base CMYK profile was: ISO Coated v2 300%.
And I got a "Black Ink of ISO Coated v2 300%" profile for Grayscale conversions by generating this with my PhotoShop app.
Maybe optional, but helpful:
Change the color settings of Acrobat Pro X to use the color settings file you generated in PhotoShop where:
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Mandatory, but somehow tricky:
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None of the ordinary ones will fit exactly (at least in my Acrobat Pro X).
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2. Include a single correction for converting to Gray Scale (at this time, or if you do something like that the first time, it's not possible to change or duplicate that single correction)
3. Save your new profile. Close the profile.
4. Open the profile again.
5. Now, suddenly it's possible to duplicate that single correction (converting to Gray Scale).
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> How can I convert a pages color document to a PDF Black and White doc. Or, covert the color to B&W in a new doc?
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I hope this is a stupid question. I am creating the school year book for the first time. It is 80 pages with a mixture of black and white pages and colour pages.
Do I have to set Indesign up any special way so that when it goes to the printers it will know this.
Can I have black and white masters and colour masters in the one document?
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>Do I have to set Indesign up any special way so that when it goes to the printers it will know this.
Maybe. How is it going to be printed? Have you talked to the printer about it?
>Can I have black and white masters and colour masters in the one document?
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>Do I need to gray scale all my (black and white images) in Photoshop first?
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Grayscale content is output in the K channel of the InDesign file, and your screen preview may not be accurate unless you use overprint preview.
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