"Blank" thumbnails in Layers Palette with white objects.

When working with completely "white" objects, the thumbnail in the layers palette is effectively "blank" (see attached sample). Is there any kind of option or mode that will make those thumbnails a little more practical? I often have to find a specific white letter behind a non-white letter--and sometimes they're nowhere near each other in the layer. (Most often these are 'old' files that someone else created.)

While I can’t help make the Layers panel more informative for you, you might find the Transparency Grid helpful. Turn it on in the View menu, andchange the colours for the grid in Document Setup.

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